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Hi
I'm trying to get .mp4 video files (on an eHDD) to play on an old 500MHz G3 iBook running 10.4.11 - they were originally converted from DVD using Handbrake, on a G5 iMac where they ran quite happily. The G3 has QT 7.6.4, plus Perian, plus VLC - but nothing will play the video. I hear the audio track but the video is just blank black. Normal DVDs play AOK.
Is there anything I'm doing wrong or must I accept that this machine is too old even for MP4 video?
No dice I'm afraid, BD. The Div-X installed QT behaved just as before,while MPlayer gave this error :
2012-02-07 22:01:57.876 MPlayer OSX[1287] Path to MPlayer: /Applications/MPlayer OSX.app/Contents/Resources/External_Binaries/mplayer_noaltivec.app/Contents/Mac OS/mplayer
2012-02-07 22:01:57.876 MPlayer OSX[1287] Arg: /Volumes/Music & Visuals/QuickTime video/The World At War/9 Stalingrad.mp4
2012-02-07 22:01:57.876 MPlayer OSX[1287] Arg: -framedrop
2012-02-07 22:01:57.877 MPlayer OSX[1287] Arg: -vo
2012-02-07 22:01:57.877 MPlayer OSX[1287] Arg: macosx:shared_buffer
2012-02-07 22:01:57.877 MPlayer OSX[1287] Arg: -slave
2012-02-07 22:01:57.877 MPlayer OSX[1287] Arg: -identify
dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/X11/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib
Referenced from: /Applications/MPlayer OSX.app/Contents/Resources/External_Binaries/mplayer_noaltivec.app/Contents/Mac OS/mplayer
Reason: image not found
2012-02-07 22:01:58.624 MPlayer OSX[1287] Abnormal playback error. mplayer returned error code: 5
Something to do with no Altivec?
I also got :
2012-02-07 22:12:27.825 QuickTime Player[1399] CFLog (21): dyld returns 2 when trying to load /Library/QuickTime/Perian.component/Contents/MacOS/Perian
2012-02-07 22:29:10.398 aaaTypeIt4MeMenu[253] TotUsed objectForKey is nil
Is that any help?
Something to do with no Altivec?
Yes, but normal I suspect, since G3s do not have Altivec, only G4s & G5s.
Will look deeper later.
By normal I meant that it mentioned _no_altivec.app as I'd fully expect.
does his file exist?
/usr/X11/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib
Did you repair permissions after installing & reboot?
I can't say in your case but I know G4 made a world of difference for me with video. I could never get mp4s to play properly on my G3 (admittedly a slower model). What settings did you use with the encoding? I know HB includes H264 as an option. H264 is considered too demanding for even a G4, much less a G3 without Altivec.
There' s no X11 file, BD. And permissions/reboot makes no difference.
I can't now remember the HB settings Limnos, but I probably selected the "for QT" option (640x480). I don't think I opted for H264.
/usr/X11/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib
Well, that is apparently what it's looking for & why it's failing.
Not sure, but did you ever Install X11? Do you have your 10.4 Install Disk to see if that's an option?
If not I think this might be it...
http://roundhere.net/journal/install-x11-on-mac-os-x-10-4-tiger-without-dvd/
The install disk for this iBook is 10.1 (that's how old it is!) - the seller loaded 10.4 on it but didn't supply the disks. I will try that site you linked when it's back online.
Hmmm, it's online & downloading for me now!?
If it doesn't for you, we can try an iChat transfer.
I downloaded X11 ok. (I belatedly had to Force Quit the installer but it seems to be there in Utilities anyway).
I tried MPlayer again, but still got the same X11 error. This seems to be because it expects to find a X11 subdirectory in /usr, but using "ls /" in Terminal there isn't such a directory - it's X11R6.
I think I'm about ready to call it a day on this one. Can I uninstall X11? It's using half a gig of HD space I can barely spare for it.
I think, not sure, that the Installer has an Uninstall option, but I think we're onto te problem.
Get Find Any File...
http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/
Search for Name contains X11 and Is a Folder True.
can also be used to find all x11 files & trash them.
Thanks BD. This is what Find Any File came up with :
Does that shed any light? (X11 doesn't take as much room as I feared - some HD space was taken up with virtual memory)
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=410962#15 - I interpret as MPlayer requiring Altivec
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2011/06/msg00068.html - Newer versions of VLC may require Altivec? This person seemed to get VLC to work on a G3 by doing a custom compile.
Frankly, I think you're expecting too much of a G3 to really do video. Video barely started coming in with G3s and G4s were the real video machines of the day. Perhaps if you were playing 320x240 Quicktime mov format it could do it. Larger format MP4 probably requires too much processing power without Altivec. My G3 was able to play raw format I grabbed using a card, but once it was in MP4 format it couldn't play it.
Get MediaInfoMac (there may still be a free version) and see what codecs are used. I don't know about newer HB but the old one doesn't actually produce QT format, just MP4 and some others like AVI.
MP4 on a G3 iBook?
