Iwan M

Q: multiple formats in iTunes

Hi - For home usage (stream to hifi through apple TV) I use apple lossless format and as a consequence my current itunes DB contains about 150GB of lossless mustic tracks. Never been a problem as I used an IPod classic (160GB) as mobile media player in my car. Having just purchased a new car it turns out that the best option (to make optimal use of the car's features) is to use my IPhone in the car. The bottomline is - I will need to create AAC files (256kbps bitrate) of all my files in itunes. That should leave me with approx 30GB of music.

 

- How can I exclude the lossless files from Genius and force it to use AAC files instead?

- Is there any optimal way to maintain 2 formats of 1 track (besides using smart playlists)?

 

Cheers,

 

Iwan

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 11:05 AM

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  • by ed2345,

    ed2345 ed2345 Feb 17, 2012 8:51 AM in response to Osiyo
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    Feb 17, 2012 8:51 AM in response to Osiyo

    It's 2012 and iTunes "10" now. Surely something has changed!

    The main thing that has changed is that people are rapidly losing interest in burning CDs.

     

    What really bothers me about using iTunes to make CD's for my car, is that "cloth eared" is far too kind. My wife b****** about iTunes burns not being anywhere near as good as a store bought CD. "lousy" is her usual comment.

    Here is my comment on that.

     

    Jens Buchert is my fav (movie/concert/club tracks, most of his stuff) but outside iTunes pickings are slim and all my first choices are only found either in iTunes or YouTube (freakz).

    There is a whole bunch of Jens Buchert material for sale at Juno Download.  They even offer lossless (WAV) downloads as an option!  Check them out. 

     

    (Just be advised that Juno's prices are higher than the iTunes Store, and if you shop there from outside the UK, your credit card will tack on a foreign exchange fee.)

  • by Osiyo,

    Osiyo Osiyo Feb 17, 2012 1:07 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Feb 17, 2012 1:07 PM in response to Chris CA

    Chris,

     

    Not sure how you do your nifty quotes, must be I should use my Mac for that. Nuf 4 fluff.

     

    Frequent mention was made in 2010 of converting around AAC and ALE. You could say they both sound the same, but they behave very, very differently in my Creative and other audio software suites. Lossless is useful, flaties are not. AAC is a flaty.

     

    Spoke with Apple front room and back room support o this for two hours today, and sent review to systems administration at TriState Radio. The politic and economy behind Apple failure thus far to propel it Lossless file size advantage have huge implications for Apple markets ... and employees. Sink or swim.

     

    If your mood paints that last paragraph as damning. I did say, "Apple ... advantage".

     

    Technically, if I had better Wave form siftware I could build lots more than just 20% improvement over AAC in workovers (FLACjobs or whatever you call them). One guy in one of the fotwares was getting almost 90% improvements. Thing with wace edits is this: converting back to a fltie sound worse than the orginal AAC.

     

    I content myself with humble improvement ... for now. As it happens, the new Fatl1ty+ cards from Creative include [they always call it "proprietary"] hardware and 'driver caching' that filters and thereby improves sound. However defunct your CPU and main board (within reason), you should be able to notice some difference between lossy and lossless. Just like in wave forming, lossless has handles that are not present in compressed formats. Fatal1ty can add 2 or three audible improvements over lossy.

     

    The advantage studio work has over proprietary audiophile hardware, is that you can turn on all the handles you want working with lossless. As you and many others here complain, AAC compression screws enjoyment. Lossy AAC also screws creativity. The painful screws of loss are applied to the nerve centers that create as well as the nerve centers that enjoy.

     

    Perhaps the Apple refusal to offer up lossless store downloads goes a lot deeper, involves much more painful disappointment than we can anticipate. In the market place, Apple is certainly taking advantage of our loss (sic). But that is a topic that I guess does not belong here ... for now.

     

    Reading Apple support "How to Burn a High-Quality Audio CD", I caught that Patent tiptoe act too, in the last two paragraphs. [smile] Maybe that is more of a nudge our way not to embarass ourselves broadcasting flaties. LOL Echoing emptiness. But then you see iTunes begging you to share the flat zone woth DJ pride! Good grief, Charlie Brown.

  • by Osiyo,

    Osiyo Osiyo Feb 17, 2012 1:39 PM in response to ed2345
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    Feb 17, 2012 1:39 PM in response to ed2345

    Yep! Got one from there too. $1-2. Juno's WAV lossless identical to ALE - they include a Disclaimer somewhere to that effect, I've tried a few Torrents, too. Now that is where you find some seriously advantaged music. ... Seriously VIRAL garbage too. Itunes, LastFM, Hearts Of Space, Tristate, Shaw Music, and so many more and better each month. Content exploring the safety net for now. If iTunes drowns in North America, makes not much difference to me.

     

    I do like my Greman made electric toothbrush, though. Merkle loves to tickle my gums. Even if she'll never be a Whitney Houston. Bless the music that fills our souls. Thanks, Greetings, and Love.

  • by ed2345,

    ed2345 ed2345 Feb 17, 2012 2:21 PM in response to Osiyo
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    Feb 17, 2012 2:21 PM in response to Osiyo

    Bless the music that fills our souls. Thanks, Greetings, and Love.

    Peace, bro.  Enjoy the music!

  • by Jeffrey Cusick,

    Jeffrey Cusick Jeffrey Cusick Jul 10, 2012 10:58 AM in response to Iwan M
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    Jul 10, 2012 10:58 AM in response to Iwan M

    Hey Guys

     

    In case anyone found this post searching the internet. The latest iTunes 10.6.3 has an option now to convert higher bitrate songs to 128, 192 or 256 kbps AAC! Now you can keep your Apple Lossless files in iTunes but have 256 kbps aac files for your iPhone/iPod to listen on your external devices. This would negate the need to have separate playlists and separate AAC files in your itunes. Brilliant Apple. It's even device specific so you could use 128 kbps for your kids iPod so they say have more memory for movies and 256 kpbs on your personal iPhone.

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