Jonathan216
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Q: Can't wake Lion over wifi (or ethernet) using iPad and home sharing.

I've upgraded to Lion and everything's fine apart from one problem: using my iPad to access home shared iTunes content on my mac no longer works when my mac is asleep.

 

That's a change in behaviour from Snow Leopard; I used to be able to sleep my mac and then wake it over wifi using either my iPad or iPhone to access all of my home shared libraries.  The mac screen used to light up for ten seconds and then go dark again, but it served me the files.

 

Lion seems to go into a deeper sleep which it can't be woken from.  If I attempt to wake my mac from my iPad within about ten minutes of putting my mac to sleep then home sharing seems to work and lets me use the home share libraries, but if I leave it any longer than that then the mac seems to fall into a coma and can't be woken.  The weird thing is that I still see a "shared library" folder on my iPad, but when I click on it nothing happens.  I think my Time Capsule is listening for wifi access and issuing the magic packet to the mac, but the mac just ain't listening.  

 

I'm using a Time Capsule in bridge mode from an ADSL modem and I've accepted a TC firmware update last week and I'm on lion 10.7.3.  I've tried using Ethernet to connect the mac to the TC (and temporarily disabled the wifi connection) but that still doesn't work.  Also, note I'm NOT suffering from the problem that 10.7.3 seems to be giving a few other people - my mac reconnects to my wifi just fine when I wake it up manually.  For the record, This was an upgrade, so there's still a tick in "wake on network" in power settings and home sharing on iTunes is still configured the same as it was before.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can get home sharing to work when my Lion mac is asleep please?

 

Jon

iMac 27" i5-760, Mac OS X (10.6.7)

Posted on Feb 12, 2012 1:27 AM

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Software update yesterday (24 Feb 12) appears to have fixed my problem.  Hope it's permanent!

Posted on Feb 25, 2012 3:17 AM

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  • by Tony T1,

    Tony T1 Tony T1 Feb 20, 2013 7:40 AM in response to JrDickie
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    Feb 20, 2013 7:40 AM in response to JrDickie

    7.6.0 is not available for d/l.  It's possible that you have it saved in Time Machine.

    Open TM and navigate (in your home directory) to: Library/Application Support/Apple/AirPort/Firmware/114/

  • by JrDickie,

    JrDickie JrDickie Feb 20, 2013 7:55 AM in response to Tony T1
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    Feb 20, 2013 7:55 AM in response to Tony T1

    I'll try to check for it when I get home.

    But I think it's not there, once I bought my iMac in January/2012 and my AirPort Extreme in October/2012.

  • by Flopsy007,

    Flopsy007 Flopsy007 Mar 4, 2013 1:34 AM in response to Jonathan216
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    Mar 4, 2013 1:34 AM in response to Jonathan216

    I struggled with this issue for quite some time and read through loads of forums in search for a solution. Seems that in my case the solution was sooo simple. Won't apply to all with such issues, I'm sure, but maybe it will help out a few people.

     

    Case story: I'm using a MacMini2010 as media center (running Plex). I have an ISP modem as DHCP server and a Time Capsule (TC) in bridged mode connected to the DHCP server. The TC broadcast the WiFi. Wake on demand worked fine in Lion but after upgrading to ML it stopped working. When the MacMini was sleeping I had to wake it manually.

     

    What I found out the other day is that wake on demand over WiFi (using "magic packets") does not work when your TC (or Airport extreme) is in bridged mode. But of course wake on demand over ethernet should still work.

     

    Earlier on I had WiFi turned off on the Mini as I wasn't using it, but sometime along the way and probably after upgrading to ML I turned WiFi on. Just for the **** of it I turned WiFi off the other day and now wake on demand works perfectly over ethernet. I don't understand why turning on WiFi disables this ethernet feature, because Ethernet was placed above WiFi in Network Preferences. But in my case it doesn't seem like it was ML's fault.

     

    IN SHORT: If the Mac that won't wake on demand is connected both via ethernet and WiFi try turninng of WiFi. It did the trick for me enabling wake on demand from LAN and from iphone/ipad running Plex. I'm a happy pig again

  • by JrDickie,

    JrDickie JrDickie Mar 4, 2013 2:51 AM in response to Jonathan216
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    Mar 4, 2013 2:51 AM in response to Jonathan216

    Flopsy007,

     

    My iMac is connected to Airport Extreme via Ethernet and wifi is completely disabled. The problem persists.

     

    I'm leaving iMac on 24/7, but with monitor off. This last night I tried to put the iMac to sleep again and this morning I just not was able to wake it from iPhone/ATV3, but noticed that the ethernet connection went down!!! It just came to life again after restarting the machine.

     

    It sems that it's something with ML software.

  • by Tony T1,

    Tony T1 Tony T1 Mar 4, 2013 5:20 AM in response to Flopsy007
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    Mar 4, 2013 5:20 AM in response to Flopsy007

    Flopsy007,

    My setup is similiar to yours (only difference is I have Lion on the mini), however, with the 7.6.3 firmware, I can't wake the mini, but it works with 7.6.0

  • by Simon69,

    Simon69 Simon69 Apr 4, 2013 12:41 PM in response to Tony T1
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    Apr 4, 2013 12:41 PM in response to Tony T1

    No activity on this thread for a while ...

     

    Is it working now ?

  • by Tony T1,

    Tony T1 Tony T1 Apr 5, 2013 6:41 PM in response to Simon69
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    Apr 5, 2013 6:41 PM in response to Simon69

    Simon69 wrote:

     

    No activity on this thread for a while ...

     

    Is it working now ?

     

    Only with a downgrade to 7.6.0 firmware

  • by IIIMOODIII,

    IIIMOODIII IIIMOODIII Apr 7, 2013 1:22 AM in response to Tony T1
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    Apr 7, 2013 1:22 AM in response to Tony T1

    My MacPro on 10.8.3 (also tried everything in this thread with lion too) still doesn't wake over wifi even with my AirPort Extreme on 7.6.0 (or 7.6.1-3). Just think Apple broke it and hasn't bothered fixing it.

     

    I just schedule my mac to wake in the evenings, leave it to stay awake for 3hours while putting the hard disks and the screen to sleep after 1 min. Seems to work for me, although there is the occasion where I will have to manually wake it if I'm using my appletv outside that timeframe. But seeing that it will stay visible on the network for a couple of hours after sleeping, this seems to cover everything I need just not as convenient as I'd like.

  • by ozmacoz,

    ozmacoz ozmacoz Apr 8, 2013 6:29 PM in response to Flopsy007
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    Apr 8, 2013 6:29 PM in response to Flopsy007

    Similar setup to Flopsy007 with my TC in bridge mode and the ISP modem as DHCP server.

    My experience is that iMac (10.8.3) will wake on access by iTunes Homesharing (by another Mac's iTunes or by an ATV), but I can't get it to wake for shared printer access.  All my macs and ATVs are ethernet not wireless, though wireless at the TC is operational.    

     

    When I set up my LAN about a year ago I did have "wake on LAN access" working fine for shared printer access. I commented that it was great news it worked with the TC in bridge mode...... https://discussions.apple.com/message/16160815#16160815   ......Alas that was 10.7.

  • by Killdozer,

    Killdozer Killdozer May 21, 2013 5:58 AM in response to Flopsy007
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    May 21, 2013 5:58 AM in response to Flopsy007

    Flopsy007 wrote:

     

    IN SHORT: If the Mac that won't wake on demand is connected both via ethernet and WiFi try turninng of WiFi.

     

    Thanks for posting this.  I hadn't visited this thread for some time, but I read your post and it turns out that this is exactly what my problem was.  Turning off WiFi when directly connected to the LAN allows "Wake for network access" to work again.  I'm able to remove the darkwake=0 setting from com.apple.Boot.plist and everything works.

     

    Turning off wifi strangely also fixed another problem I had been having with iTunes wifi sync jamming up after iTunes had been running for a day or two, necessitating a restart of iTunes.  With wifi off, now wifi sync works much more reliably.

  • by Flopsy007,

    Flopsy007 Flopsy007 May 22, 2013 4:56 AM in response to Killdozer
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    May 22, 2013 4:56 AM in response to Killdozer

    Glad my post helped you out, Killdozer. I myself havn't had trouble with wake-on-LAN since I turned off the wifi nearly three months ago

  • by JrDickie,

    JrDickie JrDickie Jun 14, 2013 7:04 AM in response to Jonathan216
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    Jun 14, 2013 7:04 AM in response to Jonathan216

    Hi, Fellows!

     

    It seems that since the last iTunes and OSX updates the problem is gone. At least, I can sync with my home sharing from my iPhone, doesn't matter how long the iMac went to sleep.

     

    Let's make some more tests to make sure the issue is finally gone.

     

    Cheers.

  • by Simon69,

    Simon69 Simon69 Jun 14, 2013 8:12 AM in response to JrDickie
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    Jun 14, 2013 8:12 AM in response to JrDickie

    Hi JrDickie -

     

    This sounds promising - I'll give it a try myself tonight.

     

    Out of interest, how many minutes do you have your sleep settings set to, and is your iMac connected over WiFi or ethernet ?

     

    (I use a late 2011 MacMini connected via Ethernet to a TimeCapsule and use Apple TV v3.)

     

    Thanks

  • by Simon69,

    Simon69 Simon69 Jun 14, 2013 11:06 AM in response to Simon69
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    Jun 14, 2013 11:06 AM in response to Simon69

    As a follow-up - my MacMini wakes if I use Back to my Mac or iPhone remote app ...

     

    ... however my Apple TV is still unable to wake it (all software is completely up to date on the Mac, Apple TV, iPhone, Time Capsule.)

     

    It used to work pre-Lion.

     

    A step in the right direction, but not quite there yet.

  • by JrDickie,

    JrDickie JrDickie Jun 17, 2013 5:58 AM in response to Simon69
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    Jun 17, 2013 5:58 AM in response to Simon69

    Simon,

     

    I left it slept for all the night (8 hours or more) and woke it up perfectly at the morning using my iPhone Music app. Did not try with the Apple TV.

     

    I use iMac (2011) with Mountain Lion, sleep settings to 1 hour, connected over ethernet to a switch than to the Airport Extreme. Wi-Fi is unabled.

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