Jonathan216
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Q: Can't wake Lion over wifi (or ethernet) using iPad and home sharing.

I've upgraded to Lion and everything's fine apart from one problem: using my iPad to access home shared iTunes content on my mac no longer works when my mac is asleep.

 

That's a change in behaviour from Snow Leopard; I used to be able to sleep my mac and then wake it over wifi using either my iPad or iPhone to access all of my home shared libraries.  The mac screen used to light up for ten seconds and then go dark again, but it served me the files.

 

Lion seems to go into a deeper sleep which it can't be woken from.  If I attempt to wake my mac from my iPad within about ten minutes of putting my mac to sleep then home sharing seems to work and lets me use the home share libraries, but if I leave it any longer than that then the mac seems to fall into a coma and can't be woken.  The weird thing is that I still see a "shared library" folder on my iPad, but when I click on it nothing happens.  I think my Time Capsule is listening for wifi access and issuing the magic packet to the mac, but the mac just ain't listening.  

 

I'm using a Time Capsule in bridge mode from an ADSL modem and I've accepted a TC firmware update last week and I'm on lion 10.7.3.  I've tried using Ethernet to connect the mac to the TC (and temporarily disabled the wifi connection) but that still doesn't work.  Also, note I'm NOT suffering from the problem that 10.7.3 seems to be giving a few other people - my mac reconnects to my wifi just fine when I wake it up manually.  For the record, This was an upgrade, so there's still a tick in "wake on network" in power settings and home sharing on iTunes is still configured the same as it was before.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can get home sharing to work when my Lion mac is asleep please?

 

Jon

iMac 27" i5-760, Mac OS X (10.6.7)

Posted on Feb 12, 2012 1:27 AM

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Software update yesterday (24 Feb 12) appears to have fixed my problem.  Hope it's permanent!

Posted on Feb 25, 2012 3:17 AM

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  • by Tony T1,

    Tony T1 Tony T1 Oct 19, 2013 11:09 AM in response to Simon69
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    Oct 19, 2013 11:09 AM in response to Simon69

    Simon69 wrote:

     

    I'm really pleased Apple got to the bottom of this one

     

    After a year and a half?  I'm not pleased.

  • by Simon69,

    Simon69 Simon69 Oct 19, 2013 11:49 AM in response to Tony T1
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    Oct 19, 2013 11:49 AM in response to Tony T1

    It is my understanding that when Apple do a major update, the previously reported bugs are assumed to be fixed unless people report them on the new version.

     

    So it's necessary to have a new bug opened against the new version, and the more people who report it the higher up the list it gets.

     

    I guess this one was a big annoyance to a relatively small group of people.

     

    I think this one must have taken a lot of co-ordination across a number of Apple product teams to get it resolved.

     

    This particular bug was a big issue for me, and I stopped buying iTunes content or further Apple hardware because of it.

     

     

     

    ... glad it's fixed!

  • by Tony T1,

    Tony T1 Tony T1 Oct 19, 2013 12:05 PM in response to Simon69
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    Oct 19, 2013 12:05 PM in response to Simon69

    14 pages on this issue.  I suspect many bug reports filed in over a year an a half (including mine)

    Apple dropped the ball on this one.   (And I wouldn't be suprised to see it 'broken' again wihen the next update arrives)

  • by Jon _Dodson,

    Jon _Dodson Jon _Dodson Oct 19, 2013 12:45 PM in response to Tony T1
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    Oct 19, 2013 12:45 PM in response to Tony T1

    Does indeed seem to be fixed, I thought they were never going to get round to it.  But I'll want to see it waking from a two day sleep before I'm totally happy.  Now watch them break it again in Mavericks.

  • by vestax32,

    vestax32 vestax32 Oct 19, 2013 8:40 PM in response to Jon _Dodson
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    Oct 19, 2013 8:40 PM in response to Jon _Dodson

    I cannot believe this is fixed, hooo rah!!!!!!!!!

  • by lexvo,

    lexvo lexvo Oct 20, 2013 2:39 AM in response to lexvo
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    Oct 20, 2013 2:39 AM in response to lexvo

    Well, tried to wireless wake up my iMac this morning, but it didn't work

    Like I said I have the latest OS-X/iOS/firmware versions on all my devices. Maybe it is also hardware related?

     

    So it is not fixed for me.

  • by vestax32,

    vestax32 vestax32 Oct 20, 2013 8:29 AM in response to lexvo
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    Oct 20, 2013 8:29 AM in response to lexvo

    I spoke too soon. Its not fixed. Aaaaaarrrrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • by Simon69,

    Simon69 Simon69 Oct 20, 2013 1:17 PM in response to vestax32
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    Oct 20, 2013 1:17 PM in response to vestax32

    Mine is still working reliably ..

     

    In case it helps anyone, my set-up is:

     

    TimeCapsule plugged into BT Broadband router using ethernet - WiFi is switched off on the BT router

    MacMini 2012 - connected to Time Capsule via. Ethernet

    AppleTV v3 - connected over WiFi (5GHz)

     

    On MacMini:

    Energy Saver:

      Computer sleep = 1 hr

      Display sleep = 15 min

      "Put the hard disks to sleep" - ticked

      "Wake for network access"- ticked

      "Allow power button to put the computer to sleep" - ticked

      "Start up automatically after a power failure" - not ticked

     

    In Schedule, I have it set to "Start up or wake" at 08:00

    I have it set to "Sleep" at 02:00

     

    (I have it wake at 08:00 each morning so that it does a Time Machine backup, then it sleeps of its own accord after an hour.)

     

    MacMini Network settings:

    WiFi switched off

    I moved "Ethernet" to the top of the list (the Apple troubleshooting guide says to do this, in the iCloud guide.)

    - Advanced tab:

      Ethernet IPv4 - manually configured with a static IP (192.168.1.8, 255.255.255.0, Router 192.168.1.1)

      Advanced - IPv6 - "Automatically" (nothing is shown.)

     

    iCloud - logged in and 'Back to My Mac' is enabled.

    Sharing - "Screen Sharing", "File Sharing" and "Remote Login" ticked.

     

    Time Capsule - I gave the 2.4Ghz and 5GHz networks different names, and use the 5GHz channel for Apple TV, and laptops - and leave the 2.4GHz channel for iPhones / iPads.

     

    Time Capsule - I reserved the IP address for the Mac Mini as 192.168.1.1 (so none of the other devices grab it.)

     

    Time Capsule is logged into "Back to My Mac" the same account as used on the Mac Mini.

     

    I don't know if the static IP address is necessary, but it works for me - or maybe the bug only fixed on Mac Mini.

  • by Simon69,

    Simon69 Simon69 Oct 20, 2013 1:22 PM in response to Simon69
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    Oct 20, 2013 1:22 PM in response to Simon69

    One more thing ...

    Not sure if "Back to my Mac" has anything to do with the waking, but I did have issues with "Back to my Mac" not working properly.

    I logged out of "iCloud" on the Time Capsule and also the Mac Mini, and signed them in again, it resolved the problem.

  • by lexvo,

    lexvo lexvo Oct 21, 2013 7:29 AM in response to Simon69
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    Oct 21, 2013 7:29 AM in response to Simon69

    Thanks for sharing this.

     

    I think it works for you because your Mini is connected by a cable to ethernet. I am having trouble waking up my iMac over WiFi.

  • by Jon _Dodson,

    Jon _Dodson Jon _Dodson Oct 21, 2013 11:23 AM in response to lexvo
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    Oct 21, 2013 11:23 AM in response to lexvo

    Yep, after a few overnight sleeps it's still waking on LAN now when I use my ipad/iPhone to view/listen to home shared libraries.  Dunno about wifi though, I demoted my time capsule to a simple nas and got a bthomehub4.  The setup that's working for me at the moment is: adsl>bthomehub>Ethernet cable>time capsule WAN socket>Time capsule LAN socket>Ethernet cable>iMac LAN socket.  I've disabled wifi on time capsule and everything connects wirelessly to the homehub.  The homehub seems to sucessfully transmit the magic packet to the time capsule which then wakes the iMac over Ethernet, which then serves the home shared files to my ipad/iPhone.  My iMac can see two network connections (bthomehub wifi and Ethernet) and Ethernet is above wifi in network iMac preferences.

     

    This is the first time this has worked reliably in well over a year.

  • by vestax32,

    vestax32 vestax32 Oct 25, 2013 1:02 AM in response to Jon _Dodson
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    Oct 25, 2013 1:02 AM in response to Jon _Dodson

    Still not working over wifi, this is really taking the p*ss!

  • by Canuck1970,

    Canuck1970 Canuck1970 Oct 25, 2013 9:42 AM in response to Jon _Dodson
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    Oct 25, 2013 9:42 AM in response to Jon _Dodson

    Jon _Dodson wrote:

     

    Yep, after a few overnight sleeps it's still waking on LAN now when I use my ipad/iPhone to view/listen to home shared libraries.  Dunno about wifi though, I demoted my time capsule to a simple nas and got a bthomehub4.  The setup that's working for me at the moment is: adsl>bthomehub>Ethernet cable>time capsule WAN socket>Time capsule LAN socket>Ethernet cable>iMac LAN socket.  I've disabled wifi on time capsule and everything connects wirelessly to the homehub.  The homehub seems to sucessfully transmit the magic packet to the time capsule which then wakes the iMac over Ethernet, which then serves the home shared files to my ipad/iPhone.  My iMac can see two network connections (bthomehub wifi and Ethernet) and Ethernet is above wifi in network iMac preferences.

     

    This is the first time this has worked reliably in well over a year.

    All my wake-on-wifi problems disappeared after upgrading to Mavericks. It works beautifully now, every time.

  • by Jon _Dodson,

    Jon _Dodson Jon _Dodson Oct 25, 2013 1:10 PM in response to Jon _Dodson
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    Oct 25, 2013 1:10 PM in response to Jon _Dodson

    And it's broken again.  "You do not have permission to connect to the requested resource" followed by "unable to turn on home sharing".  Absolute rubbish.  I give up on Apple (again).

  • by lexvo,

    lexvo lexvo Oct 26, 2013 7:43 AM in response to Canuck1970
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    Oct 26, 2013 7:43 AM in response to Canuck1970

    Alas, for me the upgrade to Mavericks didn't help to solve my wake-on-wifi problems.

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