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USB Keyboard Plugged into Monitor Often Doesn't Work

Very often the USB keyboard plugged into the 27" Thuderbolt Display will not be recognized. It can be worked around by plugging the USB keyboard cable directly into MacBook Pro (which always works) but the whole point is to leave the office desktop peripherals connected to the monitor when the laptop is taken away. The keyboard is a new Apple full size USB US keyboard with integral numeric pad.


17" MacBook Pro late 2011, Lion (now 10.7.3) always up to date with all Apple software and Firmware, including all the Thunderbolt Firmware updates. The problem has been occuring since 10.7.1 or 10.7.2 (sorry, can't remember exactly what we started with but it definitely predates 10.7.3).


A temporary fix can be achieved by performing an SMC reset but the problem recurs afterwards episodically upon a subsequent instance of the computer being detached from the monitor and then reconnected.


Attachment/detachment (computer to monitor) can be either while machine is off, on, or asleep and the behaviour is the same.


Everything, all powered devices, are conencted to a new UPS with AVR and active power factor correction CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD and no events are being logged (that is, logging is active but nothing has occurred).


Thoughts, suggestions, other data about set up that I ought include?


Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.

Thunderbolt 27" Display-OTHER, Mac OS X (10.7.3)

Posted on Feb 14, 2012 4:33 AM

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Posted on Jul 17, 2013 9:37 AM

So getting a longer monitor cable will fix this? Seriously?

No a monitor cable, a USB cable to the keyboard. I was one of the original poster's on this thread experiencing this problem for well over a year. Two weeks ago I finally tried what I thought was the world's stupidest solution: using the USB extension cable with the keyboard. I had refused to believe that was a possible answer. But I can say after two weeks of use (I connect and disconnect my closed Air at least twice a day to a TB monitor with USB keyboard) the keyboard has worked EVERY TIME when plugged into the TB monitor's USB hub with the extension cable.


While its a weird and inexplicable solution (seriously, an extra two feet of cable adding signalling latency???) I can confirm it has worked for me. I guess I should stop trying to believe I'm smart and just listen to other people's solutions more often 😉


Cheers,


--Kaz

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Jul 8, 2013 7:41 PM in response to Prag mac´ tic

Hello,


Just reporting that this happens to me as well. It happened to me for the 1st time today and I landed here after a Google search.


I bought my brand new Thunderbolt display yesterday, replacing an LED display (3 years old).


I took my laptop to work today. I came home and plugged in the power and Thunderbolt connection (the computer was asleep from having the lid closed).


Nothing. No keyboard input. I removed it from the back of the monitor and blocked it back in. Still nothing.


I plugged into the Macbook Pro directly on the left side USB. Started working perfectly.


I plugged in back into the Apple Thunderbolt display. Nothing.


I checked to see if I have the latest Thunderbolt drivers. I do. No updates. And the 1.1 version you can manually apply told me that I didn't need that update.


I then hooked up the provided extension cable as suggested in this thread. Plugged it into the Thunderbolt display. It came up just fine and I'm typing up this note


Very strange. I'll do some additional experimentation over the coming days as I transport my Retina MBP to and from work all the time.


Key Hardware:

  • My keyboard is the Apple Keyboard with Numerical Keybpad - English (USA).
  • My monitor is a 27 Thunderbolt.
  • My laptop is this year's Retina display Macbook Pro.


Bus use - for reference:

  • I have an Oxygen 61 key Midi keyboard on 1 of the other USB ports from the monitor
  • I have a Lacie Thunderbolt storage on the Thunderbolt chain from the montior
  • I have (or try to have?) the Apple keyboard from the monitor
  • I have a Duet by Apogge (the original) on the Firewire port from the monitor


David

Jul 9, 2013 12:06 AM in response to dj_vahn

I then hooked up the provided extension cable as suggested in this thread. Plugged it into the Thunderbolt display. It came up just fine and I'm typing up this note


I, too, use the Apple keyboard with numeric keyboard and have found, like you, that I must use the power adapter from the display to my MBP in order for everything to function as expected.


Clinton

Jul 19, 2013 7:43 AM in response to Prag mac´ tic

Hi,


It's still working for me (using the USB extension cable) over a week later with multiple shut downs, sleeps, pulling the Thunderbolt and power cable out, and all sorts of "normal" usage of moving your laptop between multiple places.


Computer

Late 2012 Apple Macbook Pro Retina 17"


Home:

Apple Thunderbolt 27" display

Ethernet via port


Work:

Dell IPS monitor

*Using Monoprice mini-display port to Display port/HDMI apdater (using Display port, not HDMI right now)

Thunderport to Ethernet adpater


Not having anymore bus problems once I put in the USB extension cable as was suggestion.


When I get home from work and jack into the Thunderbolt cable for the monitor into the Macbook, my USB keyboard attached to Thunderbolt Display, Thunderbolt display attached Lacie Raid drive, Thunderbolt atttached, firewire Apogee Duet, and Thunderbolt attached USB "piano" ... all come online and function as expected.


I can plug in additional USB harddrives to the Macbook itself and all of this is working without conflicts.


Highly recommend. I was surprised as the rest of you.

Aug 4, 2013 1:30 PM in response to bythecshore

As I see we have the same issue with a new Mac Air, thunderbolt display and a numeric usb keyboard.

So just to make it clear; I just need to buy a USB extension cable and connect it between the keyboard usb cable and the back of the Thunderbolt display (connect the thunderbolt cable and power cable to the Mac Air and close the Mac Air top) ... and this solves the problem?

Aug 4, 2013 1:37 PM in response to Mapc46

I don't have a Thunderbolt display, it's a Viewsonic I think (I'm not in front of it right now).


My problem was that the Macbook Air wasn't recognizing the Apple extended keyboard, which was plugged into a USB port. The display was not part of the equation.


The solution was to add a USB extension to the end of the keyboard USB cord, thereby extending it, then plugging it into the same USB port. (I used the extension that came with the keyboard.)


I'd image the same solution would work it the keyboard was plugged into a Thunderbolt display.

Sep 27, 2013 1:44 AM in response to Prag mac´ tic

I have the same exact problem.

- Apple 27 TBD

- late 2011 MBA running OSX 10.8.5 and

- Apple USB keyboard (ideally) attached to the TB display


Everything runs the latest firmware, I'm always keen on keeping everything up to date and running the latest software (being a software engineer). Attaching the keyboard directly to the MBA works just fine. Attaching it back to the TB display is an exercise in futility 19/20 times.


I've methodically tried every combination of plugging and unplugging things, waiting the typical 5-10 seconds USB needs to recognise stuff and so on. I have yet to establish a pattern that works every time.


This is a very annoying thing and I expect better from a 1200€ display and a 56€ keyboard.

USB Keyboard Plugged into Monitor Often Doesn't Work

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