Windows themes...OSX doesn't?

Since I am fed up with custom building Windows boxes to try and get a reliable system, I'm seriously considering getting an iMac.


However, I really dislike the OSX "theme" - it seems too grey and sterile to me, and isn't something that I'd hoped would grow on me while using my uncle's iMac. (I seem to recall the only other option was to go completely grey with a charcoal color scheme.) 😮

It's seems utterly bizarre that Windows, arisen from a business OS, should have such freedom to customize the UI globally than OSX - a product targetted at the more 'creative', right-brained and individualistic consumer. I would have thought it would be the other way around, with Windows restricting you a single grey theme, and OSX giving users the freedom to paint their user experience in whatever colors suits their personality.


I've found only one third party theme online...but it didn't seem to work globally like a Windows theme, and it had been rendered obsolete by the latest version of Lion.


I realize that restricting significant user customization of the OSX UI is done primarily to limit vectors for system destabilizing modifications, but basic theming (like color schemes) can still be implemented safely.

I hope that Apple starts to see that restricting the ability to customize the user interface is actually contrary to the Apple core philosophies.😎


Cheers!

QuBe.

Mac OS X (10.7.3)

Posted on Feb 15, 2012 1:25 AM

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Feb 15, 2012 5:12 AM in response to QuBe

My two cents on the philosophy. The interface is dull and grey because it isn't important. I have no desire to see the interface. The content is what is important. Making the interface flashy and eye-catching would detract from what is really important.

As was pointed out, despite continual complaints and third-party "solutions" since they started making a color system, Apple has never offered any way to customize the UI, except for some very minor options.

So, if it is important for you to make the interface elements stand out, Mac OS is not for you.

Feb 15, 2012 5:13 AM in response to shldr2thewheel

Hi


Yep, I did that just before I made my original post. I figured I'd also see what the Mac community had to say - to see if it was an idea others liked as well, and also to get feedback (in case I was just plain ingnorant) and there was a way to change themes I didn't know about, or some third party theming utilities like Window Blinds or something out there.

😎

QuBe.

Feb 15, 2012 5:20 AM in response to Barney-15E

Hi Barney


I don't want the UI to stand out per say...I just like to make it look more to my tastes.

Speaking for myself, the look of the UI has a tremendous impact when I spend hours a day working at the computer doing web development and digital imaging. (i.e. I'd be institutionalized within a week if I had to use Window's blue "Luna" theme that was clearly designed by students at a clown college while on LSD.)

That's why many years ago I made my own theme that I still use today.


Qube.

Feb 15, 2012 5:25 AM in response to woodmeister50

You are wrong, Mac OS, all generations, was a very good and better OS just because it did not include such useless settings and aditions, and that is precisely why Linux is so sensitive to such useless settings and aditions. The more such stupidities are added, the more frequent crashes are reported.

Mac OS X has lately become a more attractive OS, and people are pressing on Apple engineering to include such components, which inevitably lead to instability.

Feb 15, 2012 5:29 AM in response to woodmeister50

Hi Woodmeister


That's a shame. 😢

You can get socks for your iPod, cases for Apple hardware in every conceivable color, style and material, and yet the thing you interact with the most Apple won't allow personalization beyond wallpaper.

Oh well...I'll probably still get an iMac for the hardware (and do the unspeakable and dual boot Windows on it) 😮

Hopefully Apple's policy will change before I take such a drastic step.

Feb 15, 2012 5:39 AM in response to Cattus Thraex

Cattus


Actually, you are incorrect in one respect.

It is entirely possible to include theming in an OS without destabilizing it. (My Windows machine hasn't locked or BSOD in all the years of using a custom theme and a hacked "uxtheme.dll".)


If Apple implemented the themes and customization parameters, then it's fairly certain that it would not adversely effect stability. Personally I'm not interested in elaborate things like a transluscent zebra skin UI, but just a few color scheme options and configurations beyond what's currently available.

Feb 15, 2012 6:04 AM in response to QuBe

Did you ever think your problem with getting a Windows system that was stable was all the JUNK software you were loading on it.


I've used Windows computers, both bought and built desktops and notebooks from Dell, for the last 19+ years that have always been stable. I can count on one hand the number of BSODs I've had with any version of Windows.


It you are going to try and do the same thing with a Mac you will end up in the same place you were with Windows.


Oh and Apple will never do that. Apple knows best for everyone, and that is not going to change.


If you want a computer you can customize there is only one option. That is Windows and before they come out with Win 8 which will have even less user ability to customize it.


Good luck and best wishes.

Feb 15, 2012 6:06 AM in response to Cattus Thraex

Cattus Thraex wrote:


You are wrong, Mac OS, all generations, was a very good and better OS just because it did not include such useless settings and aditions, and that is precisely why Linux is so sensitive to such useless settings and aditions. The more such stupidities are added, the more frequent crashes are reported.

Mac OS X has lately become a more attractive OS, and people are pressing on Apple engineering to include such components, which inevitably lead to instability.

That is just completely false.


OS X is not a better OS then Windows. It is different from Windows but not better. Or have you not looked at all the Mac forums lately.

Feb 15, 2012 6:18 AM in response to Shootist007

Hello Shootist


I guess I didn't phrase it well...

What I meant was I've always built my own systems to create a reliable system. Not having to suffer rickety, bloatware loaded Dells, Compaqs and other off the shelf computers with cheap components is exactly why I did custom builds...and why building solid systems for musicians and graphics clients was part of my business.


As far as Windows 8 goes, I've heard that the "Metro" layer can be disabled and you are effectively returned to an updated version of Windows 7. I hope so....

Feb 15, 2012 6:32 AM in response to QuBe

QuBe wrote:


Hello Shootist


I guess I didn't phrase it well...

What I meant was I've always built my own systems to create a reliable system. Not having to suffer rickety, bloatware loaded Dells, Compaqs and other off the shelf computers with cheap components is exactly why I did custom builds...and why building solid systems for musicians and graphics clients was part of my business.


As far as Windows 8 goes, I've heard that the "Metro" layer can be disabled and you are effectively returned to an updated version of Windows 7. I hope so....

OK sorry.


Yes I am running the preview version of Win 8 in a VM on both Mac and Win 7 computers and in that version you can disable the Metro desktop and I've even installed Classic Shell (as I can't stand the newer Cartoon type interfaces).

But supposedly MS is considering not allowing that change for the final release. To make it more seamless with Win Phone & Tablet 8.


Apple is moving in that direction also.

I'm just old school I guess.


The one big thing I notice about OS X is that even though it is a Graphical User Interface there are much less user options on how to change/customize that GUI then there are in any version of Windows. And for some normal settings, like not having the Help Window "Always On Top" of all other windows, "Show All Files" and others you have to use terminal and type in a command to change those common settings.


The one thing they do share is the lousy built in Search system.

Feb 15, 2012 6:48 AM in response to Shootist007

Shootist007 wrote:


But supposedly MS is considering not allowing that change for the final release. To make it more seamless with Win Phone & Tablet 8.


Darn. 😟



Apple is moving in that direction also.

I'm just old school I guess.

Yep, me too...been cobbling machines since DOS 6...

I'm getting on and my techno challenged clients sort of have me wanting to go more of a blue pill route these days... 😁



The one big thing I notice about OS X is that even though it is a Graphical User Interface there are much less user options on how to change/customize that GUI then there are in any version of Windows.


Yep, there's a lot of stuff about Mac's I like, and that's one of the main things I don't.

There's a bit more of the "You can have it any color you like as long as it's black" creedo than I prefer.

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