I detest Mail!

OK, glad you told us how you feel about Mail.

This is a technical help forum so let us know if you have a specific issue we can help you with.

You can always make up a selection of smilies you like in TextEdit and save it on your desktop.. Copy & Paste works OK.

Or update to Lion and get all the Emoji charaters.. 'Edit' which seem to be invisible here.

PS.

Most Mac users I know set mail to plain text so not only don't they use them they wouldn't see them either.

Detlef Kretschmer wrote:

Are there no Smileys (Emoticons) in Mail? 😟

I detest "Smileys (Emoticons)".

Tell Apple

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Detlef Kretschmer wrote:

This is a technical help forum so let us know if you have a specific issue we can help you with.

Where is this specified? At the top it says Discussions. Since when has a discussion to start with a question?

Had you bothered to read the post, you might have noticed that I actually did ask a question.

In any case, I still think that Mail is a lousy piece of software compared to Eudora.

Here you go. It is prominently included in the Terms Of Use.

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So do I.

Detlef Kretschmer wrote:

In any case, I still think that Mail is a lousy piece of software compared to Eudora.

Then don't use it.

Your signature says you are using Snow Leopard 10.6.8. So why not continue to use Eudora? That's what I use (10.6.5 though).

There are a lot of other email apps to choose from. To name a few:

Mailplane

Mailsmith

Postbox

Thunderbird

GyazMail

MailForge

I had high hopes for MailForge as a the Eudora replacement a few years ago since that was it's original goal. Not sure what's happening these days (haven't even bothered to check their forums).

Detlef Kretschmer wrote:

I still think that Mail is a lousy piece of software

And that's your right. AFAICT, nobody is forcing to use Mail.app; you don't have to use it or even like it to belong to the club. And, AFAICT, nobody here is trying to change your mind.

The problem with your post is that you say you detest Mail.app, then suggest that the major reason you don't like it is a triviality like emoticons*.

Had you said, "I detest Mail.app, and I'm looking for another e-mail client. The features I need are 1, 2, 3, 4. I tried software A, and it didn't match 1 and 3. I tried software B and it didn't match 2 and 4. Can you suggest anything else I could try?" you would have had more answers like X423424X's; and your thread would have been useful for other Mac users looking for a Mail.app replacement. As it is, your post sounds very much like a rant, and it got by and large what a rant deserves.

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* Emoticons are the biggest attack on literacy since book-burning was invented. Give a teenager to read Swift's Honest Proposal, and he'll say the author was advocating cannibalism. If you then tell him that it was a bitter satire, he'll exclaim indignantly, "But I didn't see any smileys!"…

Detlef Kretschmer wrote:

This is a technical help forum so let us know if you have a specific issue we can help you with.

Where is this specified? At the top it says Discussions. Since when has a discussion to start with a question?

Had you bothered to read the post, you might have noticed that I actually did ask a question.

In any case, I still think that Mail is a lousy piece of software compared to Eudora.

As a Level 3 I thought you may have considered the option Google > Mac Mail Programs

Just a thought

Pete

Detlef Kretschmer wrote:

I don't dislike Mail because of missing smileys, That's just a (very) tiny item in my list.

Right. Just like the undergrad who wrote in his essay, "Stalin was a bad man. He had halitosis."

Detlef Kretschmer wrote:

Actually, the thread title was meant to be sarcastic - I hadn't considered that Apple fanatics don't appreciate that.😀

No, more of a silly childish rant, really, which has knocked your credibility about a great deal. So who were you expecting to respond to you here? Windows and Linux users?

You don't like Mail, have you ever thought that the feeling may be mutual and that is why it won't work for your needs?

Update to Lion. I have had no problems with it there.

Pete 😉

Detlef Kretschmer wrote:

I hadn't considered that Apple fanatics don't appreciate that.

Right. So much easier to say, "Apple fanatics don't appreciate" than… "Oops!"