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lilo5 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

In iChat, I was able to configure it to not store  or save the chat sessions.  Is there a way to do that with Message?  To delete chat sessions in Message, I have to go to iChat folder and manually delete the  file (by date) that contains the chat session.

Mac OS X (10.6.5)
  • MacTRBQ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am having the same problem and I have the same question: is there a way to not store or save a chat session with Message?  Having to remember to delete chat sessions manually is cumbersome.  Thanks (Mac OS X 10.7.3)  Thanks

  • frankxiv Level 2 Level 2 (420 points)

    Where is the iChat folder? I can't find it in the normal locations. I do see a Messages folder but it only contains attachments and then some .db files.

  • Jordy1 Level 2 Level 2 (165 points)

    You guys obviously haven't noticed the major bug yet, that once even you manually delete transcript, opening a chat with the same person again, reveals all the previous chat - even though you physically removed the history... REALLY ANNOYING!

  • Colin Ayer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I agree.  "Delete transcript" doesn't appear to work.

  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (69,500 points)

    Hi all


    At present the current set up does not allow you to change the settings for this


    The iChats folder is actually in the Documents folder (Users/(your account)/Documents/iChats)

    This is the default Position and you may have to remember where you may have moved it to if you moved it in iChat.


    Deleting items from within the dated folders in Documents/iChats seems to be the only way to remove the "history"


    I have Saved chats back to 2004 with some Buddies and this means I can scroll a very long way back in some "Chats"


    Some "control" over this is needed.



    10:22 PM      Monday; February 27, 2012

    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"


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     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
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  • lilo5 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have just decided to uninstall Messages.  The information I share with colleagues at work is just too sensitive to be sitting around on a computer.  It seems that the programmers need to work on Messages a bit more for greater stability and privacy.  The reason for my removal and roll back to iChat is that:


    1. even after I delete the chats under the "iChat" folder, the transcript of the deleted chats remains somewhere in my system.  I know because I contact the other person with whom I was chating.  He was on an iphone, and he reported that he deleted the chat session under his iOS Message.  But when, he initiated a chat session, the entire transcript of several days appeared.  Therefore, if it is not on his iPhone, then it must be on my system. 


    2. My wife and I share the same apple ID's, but different user name for Messages.  Somehow, she was able to read my chat sessions, as well as initiate chats with individuals that were not on her list (not sure how, but she did).


    I look forward to the integration iCchat with Message.  But for me, I need to chat off-the record.  And Message is not allowing me to do so. 

  • MacTRBQ Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    For similar reasons I decided to uninstall Messages beta as well.  I hope the final version of Messages, when released, will include a chat off the record setting.  Until then I will stay with iChat.

  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (69,500 points)


    Re 1:- for notes.

    iChat had a .plists called

    This file held the Recent Chats lists.  (It only lists the fact the chats happend I can't see that it points to the iChats folder)


    I have System Preferences > General > Documents set to 20 items and it is this that caues iChat to display 20 items in the top part of the list and the Saved Chat part.


    The .plist is supplying the 20 items in the Saved Chat List (they pre-date Messages being Installed)


    The top part of the Recent Items list show text and Video Chats.  All except two of these are chats since I installed Messages  (the other two are Saved Chats I re-opened)


    However there does not appear to be a  (Or an iMessage one or a IMAgent one)


    I have looked in ~/Library/Preferences and ~/Library/Caches and cannot find where Messages is storing the Recent Items.


    As iMessages can be synced across several devices I would think it is Apple that is holding on to these.


    Re 2:- I not sure I follow this:-


    My wife and I share the same apple ID's, but different user name for Messages.

    You can have the same ID.

    You can link that in an Address Book on each Machine or in different Mac User Accounts to different people.


    For Instance I use the same Apple ID on three different computers in front of me.

    One has the Address Book name in the My Card as Ralph G4  (On the G4 tower obviously).  The iMac Listed below has me as Ralph Johns.  The MacBook Pro lists me as Ralph MacBoookPro.

    Some of this helps when I am using Bonjour in iChat as the Name in the My Card is what is shown as the Buddy name.


    As  consequence if I don't sync the Address Books (only one is using iCloud) then the Address Books technically have different contacts  (although probably not as different as you and your wife's).


    If you are are syncing via iCloud then the Address Books will eventually have both sets of contacts.

    This will happen with iCloud syncing no matter if you are using the Address Book in iChat or Mesages.



    8:19 PM      Tuesday; February 28, 2012

    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"


      iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Lion 10.7.3)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),

    "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

  • Mevallemadre Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am having a similar issue about chat history:


    One problem that I have had is that when I have deleted a conversation on my iPhone it will not delete it from iMessage.  If I do delete it from iMessage at a later date when I log into iMessage to send same person a message the "deleted conversation" reappears.



    Any suggestions?

  • TheSmokeMonster Level 4 Level 4 (3,230 points)



    try having the person on the other end delete them as well.

  • Ralph Johns (UK) Level 9 Level 9 (69,500 points)



    Where are you "Deleting" it from.


    Messages Beta now stores all Chats in ~/Documents/iChats by default

    iChat was always able to Store transcripts and if you have old ones then the Messages app will display these back to day one for you (for me Day one with some Buddies is in 2004).


    The contents of ~/Documents/iChats tend to be folders listing dates

    Inside these are the chats you had on that day.  (If you stopped and restarted iChat or the computer then there will be two (or more) folders with the same date as iChat stores them by Session).


    Some people seem to be saying that even deleting them on the Phone/iPad/iPod Touch and in Messages AND in the iChats folder still has them return.

    This may be something to do with the "Cloud" side of things which maybe holding onto some messages to sync them to devices that are Off.


    I tend to use my history so I will not be deleting anything from my ~/Documents/iChats for testing.





    9:07 PM      Monday; March 5, 2012

    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"


      iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Lion 10.7.3)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),

    "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously


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  • lilo5 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have to admit tha I am no longer running Messages, as I uninstalled and went back to good old iChat.  However, when I did have Messages running I ran into the problem that:


    1. After clompleting a chat session, I delete that chat session from ~/Documents/iChats


    2. I then asked the other person to delete their session as well (from ~/Documents/iChats on their system).


    3. The next time we stared a chat session, all that was previously deleted is loaded on to the current chat session (You can imagine my suprise to find that information that was not to be stored in any way shape of form was stored somewhere (probably the Messages servers) and came back to me.


    4. I was not able to chat until all of the previous chat sessions (that I thought were deleted) were loaded into the current chat session.  For a couple of these chats, it literally took several minutes of sitting there watching old chat sessions be loaded.


    So, my warning to you, be careful. If you continue to use Messages, then do so but do not engage in sensitive private information, as their is a high likelyhod that your chat is being recorded and cannot be deleted.

  • SuperSizeIt Level 3 Level 3 (575 points)

    Good point. I noticed that recently when I cleared my messages on the iPhone. I usually do it every week or so. I don't usually archive anything in iChat or SMS/MMS. So lo and behold I was suprised to see all of them show up on Messages beta.  So for now, no Messages Beta until that is resolved.

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