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Derryl S Level 2 Level 2 (195 points)

I have been reading about evil Google bypassing Safari cookie settings, but it isn't just Google that seems to be finding a way in.

 

I have set prefs only to accept from places I visit not from 3rd parties or advertisers, yet I just went to a site and came away with cookies from google, google analytics and NINE apparent advertisers on the site's page.

 

Now, every time I use the browser, I finish the session and delete a lot of cookies. I do not have the option of choosing to block all cookies as many sites I visit regularly require a cookie for the site to function such as banks, financial sites, StatCounter, web mail, and others - even Apple wants cookies. I have even tested by turning on block all along with private browsing and still will often get google crap cookies.

 

The situation doesn't seem to be as prevalent on the iPad, though I now have 12 cookies from phobos.apple.com which just recently seemed to be appearing and multiplying.

 

i don't even use google, but use Yahoo for searches, yet I am removing google cookies multiple times in a day and getting really sick of those information theives planting their cookies on me!!!!! I just checked while posting this item and found I got a Google cookie after arriving on this forum and it had been cleared out immediately before I logged into the  Apple forum.


We need a way to flag cookies as junk (like in Mail) to block specific cookies from invading our privacy such as "We do no evil" Google.


Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.2), 2.8 GHz Quad core, 6 GB ram
  • HACKINT0SH Level 5 Level 5 (5,755 points)

    I've been earlier today looking for some good COOKIE-EXTENTIONS myself. Seems Safari did a step backwards in cookie management when you look at older versions.

  • Derryl S Level 2 Level 2 (195 points)

    The new version of Safari came out and the flood of cookies keeps on happening.

     

    Can log on to a page and just sit there, not clicking on anything, and get from 3-15 cookies appearing which I manually remove. A lot are Adclick, Rubiconproject, Flicker, Facebook, Twitter, and of course those evil Google people (can be 3 or 4 of them). I don't even have social media apps and do not visit them. While I was typing this post I got Edgekey and another Google cookie.

     

    Safari on the iPad does not seem to have the same problems. Why does it appear block cookies as expected and Mac Safari can not seem to do it anymore? I am getting tired of spending time deleting cookies!

  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)

    are they cookies, or other data. I too thought they were cookies, but then realized it was other, non cookie, stuff.

     

    This update was suppose to address that exact issue:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5190

    WebKit

    Available for: Mac OS X v10.6.8, Mac OS X Server v10.6.8, OS X Lion v10.7.3, OS X Lion Server v10.7.3, Windows 7, Vista, XP SP2 or later

    Impact: Cookies may be set by third-party sites, even when Safari is configured to block them

    Description: An issue existed in the enforcement of its cookie policy. Third-party websites could set cookies if the "Block Cookies" preference in Safari was set to the default setting of "From third parties and advertisers".

    CVE-ID

    CVE-2012-0640 : nshah

  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)

    did you happen to reset safari after you updated?

  • Derryl S Level 2 Level 2 (195 points)

    I have reset Safari which wipes out most data.

     

    A maority of the "cookies" are cached, but those happen even when I don't click on adds or other items on a page. They don't go away on their own. There are also ones that are "local storage".

     

    I still get those #**#*@ Google cookies at nearly every site I visit, even coming on to this forum. They are like mold that you can't kill.

  • Alexander Berkman Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    To get a proper and full control of the cookies in safari I suggest using this;

     

    http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/31018/safari+cookies (I use this, its free...)

     

    or get the pro version ' Cookie' in app.store

     

    http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cookie/id415585910?mt=12&ls=1

     

    It made me crazy have to do this manually all the time, safari got so much better after I got this

  • Agemalpha Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I had this problem last night.  I submitted this bug under the SAFRI> Report bugs to Apple menu>

    Please resubmit if I didn't report that the correct way.

     

    Error in Safari Privacy Settings Description.  I've been trying to figure out why deleted cookies keep populating all night.  I've tried everything from resetting safari completely to deleting certain folders.  The prompt asks "Block cookies?" and I had tried setting both from third parties and "always" then removing and they keep repopulating even without browsing.  in fact, all i needed was to switch tabs on the privacy window and a lot of cookies would be back by the time I switch back.  This morning after seeing this page, I tried the "Never"(block cookies) option and the only thing it repopulates is a cookie"apple.com".  The problem is with the "always" setting, websites like facebook and google think I'm blocking cookies when it really is allowing everything.  Please review your code and iron out this section.  Then hire me.

     

     

     

    In summary,

    Always block cookies> deleted cookies comeback after a couple of seconds> facebook and google think you're blocking cookies and won't allow you in.

    Never block cookies > only apple.com repopulates > allows facebook, but added a facebook cookie after i visited the site(didn't try google) (minutes later akamai cookie)

    Block cookies from third parties and advertisers > deleted cookies come back after a couple of seconds >allows facebook and google, but not sure if it's blocking or allowing third parties

     

    oh and as soon as you click on a radio button other than never, the cookie list gets full again.

  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)

    Could this be coming from Safari's prefetching or Top Sites?  The extra cookies I see relate to those..

  • Derryl S Level 2 Level 2 (195 points)

    Thanks for the info on the plugin Safari Cookies.

     

    I can see the difference already and it seems to be putting a lid on the cache files also.

     

    This is the way Safari should be behaving on the Mac. The iPad version seems to work as one would expect.

  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)

    After updating to 5.1.4 from 5.1.2 on SL 10.6.8, I see the same behavior. Block 3rd party cookies might block some, but not all. I first thought this was topsites loading a default set in the background, but I tested that by editing and removing all sites. A reset, doesn't always remove "local database storage" either.  If you reset a couple of times, you eventually get rid of it.

     

    Just sitting on Apple.com, I can see cookies for:

    cnet.com

    edgekey.net

    fool.com

    go.com

    google.com

    netflix.com

    nytimes.com

    redherring.com

     

     

    funny thing is, most of these line up with the default top sites loads.

     

    I do remember the day when using Safari was more secure...

  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)

    well, if I chose "show top sites," almost all the cookies correspond to those "default"  websites that get loaded after I reset Safari. This must have to do with that safari prefetching thing and top sites loading in the background.

     

    I with there was as a way to turn topsites off.

  • Alexander Berkman Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Go in to settings>general>set new windows and new tabs to open with blank page

     

    then go to bookmarks>untick include Top Sites

     

    Hopefully that will do the trick for you, I am not sure but try it out...

  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)

    Well, I already had that done. Since I always see extra cookies and stuff from the same websites, that seam to match up to topsites, I am wondering if the safari prefetching thing is picking up some things from Safari prefetching those default topsites:

    http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html

  • powerbook1701 Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)

    Ok, my issue is that I keep having cookies come in for sites that seem to be in my Topsites...even when haven't opened topsites. My initial thinking was that maybe this was some kind of default set. Then, I got to thinking: RSS feeds. Now, I don't have any RSS in my bookmarks bar nor do I have the preferences set to update automatically. Still, after checking, I noticed many of the cookies I was getting matched up to RSS feeds in Safari that are from imported bookmarks back in Safari 3 and 4.

    So, after removing all RSS feeds, the cookies stopped coming in...

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