I run OS 10.4.11. I want to download the OS in order to gain access to newer versions of Mail, Safari, etc, but no download site will open. Am I trying to do something that won't work?

Apple Mail is included with whatever Mac OS X version you are running. If Software Update does not offer later versions, the only way to get a later version is to upgrade (costs money) your Mac OS X to a later version.

You CAN run Mac OS X 10.5 if you like, but the discs are getting pricey on the secondary market.

Leopard requirements/10.5.x...

* Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor

minimum system requirements

* 512MB of memory (I say 1.5GB for PPC at least, 2-3GB minimum for IntelMacs)

* DVD drive for installation

* 9GB of available disk space (I say 30GB at least)

Trouble is Apple no longer sells it, check eBay & such for the Retail version, not the Gray Discs...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mac+os+x+leopard+retail+10.5

There are workarounds if the 867MHz is the only hangup...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/leopardassist/

http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/unsupported.html

deecy, what version is reported when you click "About Mail"?

This is mine:

What features do later versions have that you need?

Whatever version of Mail is included with the OS X 10.4.11 combo update is likely to be the last version Tiger is capable of running. I do not believe any version of Mail is available as a standalone download. Even if it were, versions later than the one included in the Combo update are not likely to work.

John Galt has you covered, the last 10.4.x Mail update is in the 10.4.11 Combo. 🙂

Many of Apple's apps that came with OS 10.4 are quite dated. You might want to try some newer, free alternatives.

For Mail substitute, try Thunderbird download at http://mac.oldapps.com/thunderbird.php?system=mac_os_x_10.4_tiger_powerpc

For Safari get Firefox or the newer TenFourFox.

 Cheers, Tom 😉

deecy-

A different version of Apple Mail, or even a different third-party mail program will not make anything any better.

Apple Mail asks for your password again because it cannot successfully connect to your mail Sender or Receiver -- and does not Directly tell you which.

Mail > Window > Connection Doctor ...

... will give you some additional insight into what is not working (send or receive or both)..

Your ISP should be providing help with this, but I admit they are generally not very helpful.

What is your ISP? Maybe Readers can provide additional tips for getting it working.

I have the same version as you, John.

Thanks Tom,

What is your email domain name - just the part after the @ - in other words: xxxx@gmail.com. What is after the @ symbol?

Grant Bennet-Adler is completely correct. You won't solve this with a new computer. I have about fifteen email addresses and OS X 10.4.11 Mail works with all of them.

Apparently Mail's Setup Assistant did not configure some obscure setting, and it is not surprising that you might have to manually configure the account. If one of us recognizes the domain name we might be able to walk you through the settings, but if not you will need your email service provider to supply them to you.

From http://www22.verizon.com/ResidentialHelp/FiOSInternet/Email/Setup+And+Use/Questi onsOne/86782.htm

Click on Mail Preferences > Accounts, select the account and insert the following in all the relevant fields. If you can't find where to put something let me know and I will try to figure it out.

This is for FiOS and I do not know if that's what you have, but perhaps this is a start:

• Incoming mail server (POP3): incoming.verizon.net
• Incoming Server Port Numbers: 995
• Outgoing mail server (SMTP): outgoing.verizon.net
• Outgoing Server Port Numbers: 465 Why is this important?
• Your Verizon Online user name - try it with the @verizon.net part first, if that doesn't work just use what is before it.
• Your Verizon Online password - be absolutely sure it is correct
• Make sure "This server requires a secure connection (SSL)" is checked.

By the way if you can still edit your post, omit or obscure your email address. No need to attract spam 🙂

deecy-

Verizon recently changed their email service to provide encryption coming and going. That means the ports changed and the procedures changed as well. That it stopped working is not your fault -- they changed it.

John has kindly provided the updated information above.

deecy wrote:

... How can Verizon run a company with help like that??

Easy - with money like yours. Don't give it to 'em.

The more I deal with other companies, the more I love Apple.