iBook G3 Mac OS 9 Problems

I bought an old iBook G3 laptop computer from someone on ebay and there's a few problems. The hard drive had less space than advertised so I bought an internal hard drive and my uncle installed it for me. That hard drive had 9.2.2 installed on it but when the computer is all booted up, the screen is cropped and there are black edges sticking out for an inch and a half all around (see picture link:


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/icycool7227/P1010883.jpg


I also tried reinstalling 9.2.2 on it but the CDs both say it cannot run on this machine. I tried both a white disc with the orange 9 on it (9.2.1 software) and a gray Power Mac G4 Mac OS 9.2.2 Install. Formatting the hard drive didn't work either. Are the screens for iBook G3 supposed to be like this? What CD works here?

Posted on Mar 2, 2012 1:02 AM

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Mar 2, 2012 6:02 AM in response to IcyCool7227

It's been a long time since I booted into OS 9, but check the display resolution setting. If I remember correctly the setting is done in one of the Control Panels.


Mac OS 9.x

  • From the Apple Menu pull down to "Control Panels"
  • From with the "Control Panels" window double click on "Monitors"
  • When the "Monitors" control panel opens it will open in the default "Monitor" view (the other option is the "Color" view). In this view the bottom half of the window is split into two panes, the right pane is named "Resolution".
    In this pane is listed the recommended resolutions that your monitor can support.
  • Select a resolution at or higher than 800 x 600.

Your Mac will apply the change, then will display an option to change your mind if you don't like it or if it doesn't work on your monitor.

Sometimes you have to re-center the image using your monitor's "Size" and "Center" controls.


 Cheers, Tom 😉

Mar 2, 2012 6:03 AM in response to IcyCool7227

The black area is simply an indication that your screen resolution isn't set properly. You can change that in Preferences; It should be 800x600 or maybe slightly larger (I don't have an iBook to test that).


You can't install Mac OS 9.2.2 on that using a white CD or even that PowerMac G4 CD; they aren't compatible with that machine. You need to use the original installation discs that came with that machine, which are no longer available from Apple. So you'll have to buy them on the secondary market.


To find out which ones you need, we need to know the exact model number of that iBook, which is on the original box (if you got that), or you can find out by using System Profiler and posting that information, up to but not including the serial number.

Mar 2, 2012 11:39 AM in response to IcyCool7227

With OS 9, when the screen image is smaller than the screen itself it usua;;y indicates the machine has been booted to an OS 9 install from another machine, one which is a different model than the one trying to run it. The direct cause in that case is that the graphic support software that was installed does not match with the hardware on the machine it is being used on. Note that unless specific steps are taken during an install of OS 9, the installation will be specific to the model on which it is installed, rather than being a universal install.


Every machine has a minimum OS which it can use; typically this is the OS version that originally shipped with the machine.


What specific iBook G3 model do you have? There were many; if you don't know the Apple designation for your model, this article can help you identify it -

iBook: How to Identify iBook Models

Mar 2, 2012 7:16 PM in response to Don Archibald

The model number is A1005. I cannot get the computer to start up at all now - I had an old disc to try and reinstall 9.2.2 and it did not install correctly. I think because it had perm. scratches. Before I reinstalled it I remember that it had only one screen resolution setting when I tried looking in Monitors, so maybe the graphic software doesn't match or something.

Mar 2, 2012 10:25 PM in response to IcyCool7227

Okay. The "A1005" model is designated by Apple as the iBook (32 VRAM) model. It originally came with OS X 10.2.1 and OS 9.2.2, the latter being a model-specific version as all OS 9.2.2 installs were.


The install disks for this model were a combo set - the disk set boots to OS X, and after OS X was installed it was then possible to install a bootable OS 9.2.2 from the same disk set and installer; it did not come with a separate OS 9.2.2 Software Install CD. If one wished to have only OS 9.2.2 installed on a model like that, it was necessary to first install OS X, then install OS 9.2.2, then remove OS X.


Finding an original disk set for that specific model may be difficult. One possible source would be an Apple User Group near you. Most large cities and universities have one -

Apple - User Groups

Mar 3, 2012 7:29 PM in response to Don Archibald

Ok, on eBay there is an auction for a 9.2.2 CD that is gray and says eMac Mac OS 9 Install but the seller describes it as not being compatib. with iBook G3 16V RAM or later. 200722397183. So that must not be it correct?


Then there is another auction on ebay that was completed but no bidder that is advertised as Mac OS X 10.1.2 & 9.2.2 together. Item #: 160749654458. Is that it?


Is the disk set gray? Just need to make sure. Thank you for your help.

Mar 3, 2012 10:19 PM in response to IcyCool7227

...for a 9.2.2 CD that is gray and says eMac Mac OS 9 Install but the seller describes it as not being compatib. with iBook G3 16V RAM or later. 200722397183. So that must not be it correct?


That is not it. The OS 9 (and maybe OS X) install disks that come with a machine are usually specific to that model, meaning the necessary files for models with different hardware are not available to the installer.


...is advertised as Mac OS X 10.1.2 & 9.2.2 together. Item #: 160749654458. Is that it?



No.


Your iBook originally came with OS X 10.2.1 and OS 9.2.2.


A disk set with OS X 10.1.2 is for either an iMac (Flat Panel) (the original model in that series) or a G4 QuickSilver (the original model in the QS series).

Mar 16, 2012 10:08 AM in response to kurt188

I should note that your iBook Install/Restore discs were actually for Mac OS X 10.1.4 and Mac OS 9.2.2, even though at the time of sale Apple installed 10.2.1 on your system. So you could actually use the set of discs that Apple shipped with all G3/G4 Macs of that generation, and the Apple Part Number for the set is 603-0798-A.


The complete set is 9 discs, including one for an optional software install. The only difference between discs is that the name of each model generation was printed on the sets they came with; there is no difference in the actual software.


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May 14, 2012 10:48 PM in response to kurt188

I know this is an old thread but I wanted to update. I'm about ready to scream! We Love Macs told me that I needed: 691-4001-A which I bought before I saw this latest post. I also bought a copy of Mac OS X Tiger which installed fine but the CD I bought at We Love Macs does not install a fresh copy of Mac OS 9.2. It opens up an application called Software Restore and tells me to insert the CD illustrated on the page which of course I don't have. Is this set: 603-0798-A the ONLY CD that will install Mac OS 9.2.2? This is very frustrating! I have spent so much time and money on this ibook. I have important contacts and documents saved that can only be opened with Mac OS 9.2. Is there a chance of selling 691-4001-A on ebay and getting the money back to get the right one? Anyone else would feel the same as I do right now - mad!

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