16gb ram in mac mini i5 2.5?

Of course you are right about the fact that for most usage, less than 16GB is Ok. I was speaking about the tone and the form of absolute knowledge, without even asking "why do you think you need memory".

About music, maybe you did not notice the bits and sampling rates I gave...

CD is 16 bit / 44.1khz sampling, which leads to an average about 400kb/s, to compare with your 320kb/s MP3.

What I am talking about, is close to "Studio Masters", 24 bit / 192 kHz sampling leads to an average about 5.5 Mb/s

It is a "M", not a "K".

DSD, the audio format of SACD, is 1 bit / 2800.4 KHz sampling...

Anyone, with 2 ears can hear the outstanding quality of this kind of wonderful sound. iTunes can read up to 24/96. You can find free demo tracks on the web. It is nearly as the musicians are in front of you.

For this kind of High Definition Music, the Mac Mini is a real good competitor to dedicated audio servers that cost more than 6k$ (Aurender for example).

And last information, Apple has been negotiating with the Music Major companies for months, maybe years, to get this kind of HD Music on ITunes music store.

Much smaller companies than Apple offer HD Music to download for the usual price of a CD or MP3!. HDtracks in USA, Linn Records in UK, Qobuz in France, and more and more companies appear every week. You already have thousands of HD albums.

Music Editors seem not to want an agreement with Apple, too big, too strong.

First target of iTunes music store was volume sales of low quality music. Now they also want to raise the quality of their offer. To sell 128kb/s at 1$ per track was one of the best joke and the best robbery in years. They upgraded to 256, which not yet music...

Best and kind regards

Thierry

I figured that is what you were talking about with 24bit, but I am not hardcore enough with music to recall if all music was 16 or 24 now.

I agree that the difference is very noticable...but in the last 5-6 years I haven't been to hardcore with sound quality (a shame). I think the crappy headphones, bluetooth and other reasons have dumbed me down, but I digress...

I've always struggled with understanding all the tech behind video and audio standards and differences...and that is sad as I worked part time in a studio as a gopher (aspiring musician) who had the oppertunity to play on one of the first sampling keyboards every (synclavier) back in the mid 80s!

Hi

I know we are quite out of the subject here. So this is my last post on this thread.

If you are interested in all those topics, you can email me. My email is my firstname.lastname at Mac dot com

I hate that kind of response, If he want 16gb dont tell him why he needs it! He want it just anwser' dont try anything else please!

It is a truism in marketing that a person will be satisfied with nearly anything (128kb files at a dollar a pop) until they know there is something better. For example, say a company offerd 50GB of free online storage. Conditions changed, and a few months ago, they dropped the max to 25GB. The guy who has used 5GB of storage will complain. Even the guy who signed up yesterday, who didn't even know there used to be a 50GB limit, will instantly become dissatisfied when he finds out that there used to be one. Keep in mind, it's all free. Bandwidth, to a large extent, drove the 128kb "standard," but there is undoubtedly a market for higher-quality audio online. I believe, much as we saw with the rebranding of catalog phonograph records ("Original Master Version") and CDs ("Digitally Remastered From the Original Master Tapes") over time, we will see a progression of higher bitrates and, eventually, new formats. If there is anything in audio since the scratchy record that is ripe for improvement, it is online audio. Everyone stands to benefit--the consumer will finally be getting audio at least comparable to what was available in 1982, the online services (e.g., iTunes) can charge more for the improved audio, those who deal in providing bandwidth (ISPs) can charge more for higher download speeds, and so on. A good start would be raising the track limit on iTunes Match and allowing those will uncompressed audio to pay a premium to keep it uncompressed.

Okay, I have a question... I am in my Junior year in college. I have a macbook late 2008 that is having memory problems. Figured that out... I have Parallels 7 plus a Windows 7 Professional virtual machine, the minimum memory specs for this to run smoothly is 4 gigs. I only have two. So I need to upgrade my macbook. Plus my mac will not update any of my applications. I downloaded the software patch for the latest version of snow leopard and it will not install that. I guess I will have to take in in to have it looked at.

This is my main concern... I am going to purchase a mac mini when I get my taxes back, but I have read posts on here that it only supports 8 gigs of memory. I plan to transfer and upgrade my Parallels software (hope it works being that it will be loaded onto a new mac and all) Since I take my courses online I do a lot of web surfing for conducting research for papers and other applications. I do need my Windows 7 machine because one of the programs that I need to master (Access) is not made for mac because there is no demand for it and I am NOT going to purchase another PC had enough of that! I need the new mac not to slow down when I have a lot of windows open and applications running. That's one reason that I was considering ordering one with 16 GB of ram. I hate it when I am in the middle of something and my computer slows down.

Can anyone give me some help to make my decision? I would greatly appriciate it! Thanks!

I have the 2011 Mac Mini i5 2.3GH with 8GB RAM.

I use Parallels 7 occasionally for running WIndows XP and primarily for running Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 when I need to use some PowerPC applications that require Rosetta.

When I operate vSL on my 4GB 2009 MBP, I see a noticable slowdown, sluggishness and delays on both operating systems. I do not see this slowdoan on the 8GB Mac Mini. YMMV!

I have the late 2012 mac mini i5 2.5 Ghz with 4gb ram factory installed OSX 10.8.2. It is definitely intended to be able to take 16gb.

So I installed 2 x 8gb Crucial chips but have had to return them as they caused the sleep function to stop working (everything else was fine). A full reboot was triggered after attempting to wake it up after Energy Saver had cut in. A right pain

I have put back the Apple DRAMS and everything is back to normal so it is definitely the chips and probably a compatability issue with Crucial and the new Mac Mini's

Does anyone know for sure a supplier's DRAM which will definitely fully work in this new model MAc mini & which i can get from the UK?

There are *plenty* of cases where 16GB is needed, and it's not just because we're now in 2013. @quitsayingmetoo points out the obvious one: running VMWare. But for large datasets in R for example, you'll often want 16 (if not 32GB) of RAM and the CPU will not be overtaxed.

That said, Apple really should gear up for a 32GB ecc-corrected "pro" version of the Mac mini.

Yes it's possible all mac mini without DVD support 16GB

I have 16 gig of Crucial RAM in my late 2012 i7 mini and have no problems with it.

Whether someone "needs" 16 is a silly issue. If I had upgraded mine to 8 gig instead, I would have saved something like a whopping $20. BFD. I might mention, though, that I upgraded my wife's i5 iMac from 4 to 16, and she can't tell any difference, even when batch processing huge images in Photoshop.

AActually I had 16 gb of ram in mine and it totally screwed up my Mac. It almost crashed my computer after a few months of use. After I switched back to 4gb (all I had) it was back to perfectly working. I wouldn't overdo your ram on your Mac minis. Just keep an eye out on odd things happening. It's a nightmare.

It is not the 16GB that is messing up it is the type(brand). The latest Mac's are very sensitive to memory design. Some brands like Crucial that are "certified" have no issues. Other brands with the same spec. can cause issues. Just need to be careful.

kevinclayland wrote:

AActually I had 16 gb of ram in mine and it totally screwed up my Mac. It almost crashed my computer after a few months of use. After I switched back to 4gb (all I had) it was back to perfectly working. I wouldn't overdo your ram on your Mac minis. Just keep an eye out on odd things happening. It's a nightmare.

There is no such thing as "overdoing" the RAM that could cause problems. There are Mac Pros out there running 32GB and up for specialized applications. They're not crashing, because OS X supports a heck of a lot more RAM than that.

What causes the problem is a bad stick of RAM. That's why it's best to buy only from RAM sellers with lifetime exchange warranties. Just exchange your bad stick and you're good.

You might not need 16GB, but when you only have 4GB RAM, you aren't taking full advantage of your Mac's hardware, especially 64-bit memory addressing.

For thoses who didn't try it.... I did install 16gb of ram in my mid 2011 Mac Mini with success or any issues, I bought the ram at OWC and everything was fine, I did install a secondary Hard drive SDD and converted my original HDD and SDD to a fusion drive. Performance are awesome. I needed the ram for my Windows VmWare.

Cheers

Francis