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Photos app bug resurrects long-removed photos (related to PNG alpha)

Wanted to report/discuss a possible privacy concern and image glitch, and understand it better for submission to Apple's feedback page: the iPad (and maybe iPhone) Photos app will consitently resurrect long-deleted photos in your Camera Roll, under certain circumstances. These are long-removed photos (as in removed many months ago, prior to the iOS 5 update), and possibly only the reduced-size thumbnail versions.


Note: as near as I can tell, the deleted photos were NOT originally from the camera roll! That's where they resurface, but I believe they are photos from other albums, maybe once which used to by synched to iPad but which I no longer synch. So "removed" might mean deleted or it might mean "no longer synched to iPad"... the images are so old I can't recall.


So the bug, I'm guessing, it two-fold:


1) The Photos app (and/or iPhoto during wired synch?) is not fully removing photos (or at least, their thumbs). They're no longer visible in Photos app, but are being retained somewhere on the device.


2) A glitch in the Photos camera roll PNG handling (which I think may be new with iOS 5) causes those old images ro re-surface when you add a PNG to the camera roll. (The old photos were JPEG, but the image that triggers the bug must be a PNG with alpha channel)


I have seen this on both an iPad 1 and iPad 2, running iOS 5.


Here's how to reproduce it:


1) Synch some photos to your iPad, then deselect them for synching and re-synch (so they're not there any more). Also, add some photos or screenshots to the camera roll and then delete them. I say to do both because I'm not 100% where the old photos come from, and I'm hoping this covers all bases! Actually, most people have already done these things in the past, and can probably skip this step.


2) Generate a transparent PNG using the art app Procreate (and probably any app that saves PNGs to the camera roll with alpha channel). All you have to do is scribble somethign into a blank Procreate canvas, then export it to your photo album. There is no need to do anything special to get an alpha channel or PNG format: you always get that. (Unless you used the Fill command to completely cover the canvas.) Now in the camera roll there should be your scribble on a transparent background. You can email it to yourself and see that clearly in Photoshop or Preview.


3) Here's the glitch: look at your camera roll (thumbnails view) and you'll see that the alpha-transparent background of the image has become one of your old removed photos! Tap it to enlarge and the alpha becomes black (which is fine, although it may seem odd if you intended to paint onto the default white canvas). But for just a moment, before you see the black, you will get a full-size glimpse of the old photo. (Or, maybe, an enlargement of the thumbnail?)


4) If you keep saving more alpha PNGs, you'll keep seeing more and different old photos coming back to life in the alpha regions of the thumbnails (and, briefly, at full size).


5) If you delete all those PNGs and then save some new ones, you'll see the same sequence of old photos reappear again.


Needed fix: removed phtos/thumbnails should be properly purged, and alpha PNGs should show simply black (or some default background) at all times.

iPad 2, iOS 5, WiFi 64 GB

Posted on Mar 3, 2012 6:18 PM

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Oct 21, 2013 9:25 PM in response to Dr. Tae

That did the trick (IFunBox) I went to the photo data folder and deleted what was in the "Caches" folder as well as what was in the "Thumbnails" folder (Backed them all up to my computer first. Even deleted the configuration file). My thumbnails didn't show up, so I re-booted the ipad (Hold down power and home button until it resets) BINGO!


I wanted to post this for people who may be looking for this in the future (Seems Apple neglects stuff like this)

Nov 4, 2013 11:50 PM in response to Morgan Adams1

I had a similar situation. I am into photo editing and like to use transparent images for such editing in other apps. When I finally find and save the transparent image (which isn't as easy as it used to be on ios6) it 'resurrects' an old photo I've deleted from a while ago and uses it as the 'base' for the transparent image. It's frustrating. Ios6 didn't do that to me. I understand that photo editing should be done on more appropriate software but I'm staying within budget of a high school soon-to-be college student. I don't know if there is an explanation or if there is maybe some way to fix it or even if they plan on fixing it. I am just really unhappy with it. My OCD kicks in.

Jan 31, 2014 11:18 AM in response to Morgan Adams1

I just encountered this problem on an iPhone 4S with iOS 7.0.4. I saved a transparent png to my camera roll and when I view the thumbnail for it, it has a long-deleted photo in the background. I'll add that it was particularly important for this photo to be gone, and it's upsetting to see that it somehow still existed somewhere.


Please fix this - it is a BAD security issue.

Feb 14, 2014 2:10 PM in response to Morgan Adams1

Wow! This is happening on both my iPad Air and my iPad Mini Retina. I am using Paper and whenever you try to save to camera roll (with background colour turned off in settings), you see a thumbnail of a previously deleted photo. When I click the photo to enlarge it, I see the picture for a second and then it goes black and the thumbnail appears at the bottom with the deleted photo as the background.


This is a SERIOUS glitch. Apple, please fix this!

Feb 14, 2014 6:05 PM in response to Morgan Adams1

I can bring back over 100 previously deleted photos Easley by useing a photo editing app adobe touch for instance creating a png and then duplicating it 6 times , then I export all 6 png pics I created numerous times and when I open the camera roll I can see all 100 thumb nails of deleted photos (or how ever many png's I've exported) I did this not to long ago just to see how many and I think the number was around 150, before the png's stopped showing deleted images they just started showing black backgrounds. This I noticed back on my iphone 3s and threw to my 5s.

Jun 3, 2014 7:39 PM in response to Morgan Adams1

Hey, I can confirm that this has been happening to me too, since only recently, though I've only very recently been importing images with transparent alphas (in my case it's happening with animated GIFs, so it's not a PNG-only issue but rather an issue related to how the photo album handles alphas in its thumbnails).


Also, in my case, it's both new and old photos being "resurrected" this way; some are probably 6+ months old, and some from about a week ago. My guess is that if I were to import more images with alphas, I'd see many more resurrections as so far every image with transparency has had a different, deleted photo placed as its backdrop in the thumbnail.


Another quirk to my case is that I've never synced my device to iTunes, ever. So the syncing process isn't where the problem occurs.


I'm using in iPhone 5, with iOS 7.0.4 (11B554a), and can replicate the issue at-will and, as far as I can tell, is impossible to avoid when viewing thumbnails of animated GIFs (and indeed probably all images with alpha transparency) in the photo album.


It goes without saying that this really is a huge potential security issue; people tend to delete photos they don't want to see again, haha.

Mar 26, 2015 11:25 AM in response to matinovich

Wow.


And Mail (since iOS 8) has a similar issue, which is if anything worse. This happen on devices where Mail can work in Landscape mode--iPhone 6+ anyway, not sure about others:


View a message in Portrait. Delete it. You think it's in trash and won't pop up unexpectedly? Think again!


Turn Mail to landscape (even much later) and the message is back! You can read, forward, reply, everything. It's as though Landscape view is an entirely separate app and hasn't been notified of the deletion.


(You do see the message removed from the message LIST--but in Landscape, there's a message pane next to the list, and that pane still shows the last message, instead of properly clearing when the message is deleted.)

Apr 19, 2015 8:27 PM in response to Morgan Adams1

This is incredibly disappointing. I have been waiting for the new Mac Photos app for months. I did not want to try the beta for fear of messing up our meticulously maintained photo library, for which we are paying money to have sufficient storage. Everything I have read about the new Mac Photos app is that it will be "just like your iPad". As I opened it tonight for the first time, it looked just like our iPad, and I was thrilled. However, as I watched to my horror, many many photos that we had spent hours deleting from our iPad and iPhones to keep our library clean suddenly started appearing in the Mac Photos app. What's worse, all those gobs of photos are now back on all of our devices. What a disaster! (imagine the 13 photos of that flower on our backpacking trip coming back, but x1000). What a waste of time - now we get the incredibly fun task of going back and re-deleting all these photos. I have disabled the application on our Mac and as far as I am concerned, the Mac Photos app no longer exists. I can never afford to open it again. As soon as I figure out what to do with our movies, it is my intention to no longer use Macs for any of our personal stuff. iOS devices do a much better job. I am hoping that the larger iPad Pro is not just smoke & mirrors - that they actually plan to release it. I will be first in line. Computers are only really required for professional jobs like programming and CAD.


What a disappointment. DropBox is such a great application, but Apple won't let it play as a first class citizen in iOS like its own Photos app, making it too cumbersome to use as our primary photo library. Maybe someday Android will catch up on usability & polish, and we can jump ship to that - I know they would not impose such artificial boundaries on apps. Why can't somebody solve this problem?!? A clean and simple photo library in the cloud. How hard can it be?

Photos app bug resurrects long-removed photos (related to PNG alpha)

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