eleanorw

Q: icloud  vs. mobileme is it worth the switch?

Am I the only person who feels ripped off by having to upgrade to lion so I can keep my "mobileme" account?  My Mac is only 1 1/2 years old. I have now tried downloading lion for the 3rd time and have 72 hours devoted to trying to get the download completed. The 2nd ended with error [after 12 hours!]. After reading everyone's feedback I have decided to hang it up. I just might go back to a rotary phone, might be easier!

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Mar 4, 2012 10:49 PM

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Q: icloud  vs. mobileme is it worth the switch?

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  • by Roger Wilmut1,

    Roger Wilmut1 Roger Wilmut1 Mar 5, 2012 12:05 AM in response to eleanorw
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    Mar 5, 2012 12:05 AM in response to eleanorw

    It's a big download and obviously the time it takes depends on the speed of your internet connection: with a slow one it might will take some hours. You could try again later - try and pick a time when America is asleep if you can.

     

    As you probably know, if youy don't migrate you will lose your @me.com account at the end of June. However you can migrate your MobileMe account to iCloud at http://me.com/move even with Snow Leopard - when asked to confirm that you have Lion on your Mac, just lie and say 'yes'.

     

    If you have MobileMe mail set up to collect mail from external POP accounts you should cancel this before migrating, or you may find it still working in iCloud (where it isn't supposed to) and with no way of stopping it. You may find the MobileMe email settings will continue to work for a time after migrating but it will stop eventually so you should not rely on this. You should delete your MobileMe email account from Mail.

     

    You can then set up Mail manually in Snow Leopard to access iCloud email; it's a slight fudge because the 'wizard' will attempt to connect you to MobileMe as soon as you enter an @me.com address. The process, which includes a workaround for this, is described here:


    http://www.wilmut.webspace.virginmedia.com/notes/icloudmail.html

     

    You may be able to sync your calendars to iCloud by means of an unsupported hack, but you cannot sync Contacts or Bookmarks and iCloud's other facilities will not work. This page outlines the situation when you migrate to iCloud, including a link to the calendar hack:


    http://www.wilmut.webspace.virginmedia.com/notes/icloudSL.html

  • by Bikgrl23,

    Bikgrl23 Bikgrl23 Mar 5, 2012 5:33 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1
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    Mar 5, 2012 5:33 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1

    Roger - afterward, can you re-set up the external POP accounts?

  • by Roger Wilmut1,

    Roger Wilmut1 Roger Wilmut1 Mar 5, 2012 8:20 AM in response to Bikgrl23
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    Mar 5, 2012 8:20 AM in response to Bikgrl23

    No: iCloud does not provide the facility of checking external accounts. Of course you can simply set them up in your Mail applications as individual accounts.

  • by Bikgrl23,

    Bikgrl23 Bikgrl23 Mar 5, 2012 8:29 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1
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    Mar 5, 2012 8:29 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1

    Individual accounts - that's fine. I don't need them syncing all over the place.

     

    Thank you for your help with this issue that many of us are having. You've been awesome!

  • by ds store,

    ds store ds store Mar 5, 2012 1:08 PM in response to eleanorw
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    Mar 5, 2012 1:08 PM in response to eleanorw

    Roger that was a very informative, helpful post that took a lot of effort.  If I could click the greenie I would.

     

     

    Bikgrl23, you need to watch out, Lion perhaps won't run a lot of software you need, have a update or require a paid upgrade and possibly no hardware drivers for your present third party hardware.

     

    Use this site to help determine if Lion is for you before you leap, if you should decide to do so.

     

    http://roaringapps.com/apps:table

  • by Bikgrl23,

    Bikgrl23 Bikgrl23 Mar 6, 2012 4:49 AM in response to ds store
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    Mar 6, 2012 4:49 AM in response to ds store

    Ah! A very useful table. Thanks for posting the link.

  • by ds store,

    ds store ds store Mar 6, 2012 8:05 AM in response to Bikgrl23
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    Mar 6, 2012 8:05 AM in response to Bikgrl23

    your welcome,

     

    another helpful tip is to clone your present OS X 10.6 boot drive to a blank, powered external drive and disconnect.

     

    the advantage here is the clone can be 'hold the option key bootable', allowing you to use disk utility to erase the entire internal hard drive (important) and reverse clone 10.6 back onto your internal drive.

     

    CCC is free/donationware and the first / best, Superdupes is free basic clones then payware for more features.

     

    http://www.bombich.com/get_ready_for_lion.html

     

     

    So this way if you decide to make the Lion leap, only to find out your third party hardware ceases to function and the dev won't write a new Lion driver, you can revert to 10.6.8 in about a few hours of letting the software do the work instead of a tedious manual install from 10.6 disk.

  • by Cuecin,

    Cuecin Cuecin Mar 7, 2012 2:36 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1
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    Mar 7, 2012 2:36 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1

    Does this mean that even if I upgrade or purchase a new mac, I will not be able to have my gmail account sync with my iPad, iPhone and computer? So if I delete and email on one device, it will not delete in another???

  • by Roger Wilmut1,

    Roger Wilmut1 Roger Wilmut1 Mar 7, 2012 2:59 PM in response to Cuecin
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    Mar 7, 2012 2:59 PM in response to Cuecin

    You would have to set other accounts up in the iPad's/iPhone's/Mac's own mail applications as separate accounts. For deletions in one device to show on the others the account has to be IMAP, where the messages live on the server (as with iCloud): I don't know whether GMail provides this.

  • by DMerz,

    DMerz DMerz Jun 1, 2012 3:50 PM in response to ds store
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    Jun 1, 2012 3:50 PM in response to ds store

    ds store,

     

    The link you provided : http://www.bombich.com/get_ready_for_lion.html  is by far the best thing I've read on going from OS X v10.6.8 to OS X v10.7

     

    It put the steps in a clear, concise way that even a clueless Mac newbie, like me, can understand.

     

    Thanks for posting that link!

     

    DMerz