Why do my DVD's look like crap?

So I've been struggling for over a week trying to burn a SD DVD but they keep turning out like crap.


Here is what I am doing.


I am capturing with my HD PVR to MTS, then I convert to mp4 and slightly edit with Streamclip. I have also tried exporting to a .mov before importing into iDVD.


I make a project in iDVD, at Professional Quality.


But playback is much worse then the mp4 or mov.


Any tips?

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.2)

Posted on Mar 8, 2012 7:13 PM

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Mar 8, 2012 10:58 PM in response to thomasmontalto

Hi


Yes all coding, de-coding take's a lot of quality.


Not sure what HD PVR is - But if it can be imported into

• iMovie HD6

• edited here

• Save and close - NO export or Share to iDVD - Just close it

• open iDVD and import the iMovie HD6 movie project


Now this will keep 100% from start to encoding-step in iDVD (best that can be done)


(Keep fps the same (PAL to PAL or NTSC to NTSC))


Here is my note on DVD Quality


DVD Quality

1. iDVD 08, 09 & 11 has three levels of qualities. (version 7.0.1, 7,0.4 & 7.1.1) and iDVD 6 has the two last ones


• Professional Quality

(movies + menus up to 120 min.) - BEST (but not always for short movies e.g. up to 45 minutes in total)


• Best Performances

(movies + menus less than 60 min.) - High quality on final DVD (Can be best for short movies)


• High Quality (in iDVD08 or 09) / Best Quality (in iDVD6)

(movies + menus up to 120 min.) - slightly lower quality than above


Menu can take 15 minutes or even more - I use a very simple one with no audio or animation like ”Brushed Metal” in old Themes.


About double on DL DVDs.


2. Video from

• FCE/P - Export out as full quality QuickTime.mov (not self-containing, no conversion)

• iMovie x-6 - Don't use ”Share/Export to iDVD” = destructive even to movie project and especially so

when the movie includes photos and the Ken Burns effect NOT is used. Instead just drop or import the iMovie movie project icon (with a Star on it) into iDVD theme window.

• iMovie’08 or 09 or 11 are not meant to go to iDVD. Go via Media Browser or rather use iMovie HD 6 from start.


3. I use Roxio Toast™ to make an as slow burn as possibly e.g. x4 or x1 (in iDVD’08 or 09 this can also be set)

This can also be done with Apple’s Disk Utilities application when burning from a DiskImage.


4. There has to be about or more than 25Gb free space on internal (start-up) hard disk. iDVD can't

use an external one as scratch disk (if it is not start-up disc). For SD-Video - if HD-material is used I guess that 4 to 5 times more would do.


5. I use Verbatim ( also recommended by many - Taiyo Yuden DVDs - I can’t get hold of it to test )


6. I use DVD-R (no +R or +/-RW) - DVD-R play’s on more and older DVD-Players


7. Keep NTSC to NTSC - or - PAL to PAL when going from iMovie to iDVD

(I use JES_Deinterlacer to keep frame per sec. same from editing to the Video-DVD result.)


8. Don’t burn more than three DVDs at a time - but let the laser cool off for a while before next batch.


iDVD quality also depends on.


• DVD is a standard in it self. It is Standard Definition Quality = Same as on old CRT-TV sets and can not

deliver anything better that this.


HD-DVD was a short-lived standard and it was only a few Toshiba DVD-players that could playback.

These DVDs could be made in DVD-Studio Pro. But they don’t playback on any other standard DVD-Player.


Blu-Ray / BD can be coded onto DVDs but limited in time to - about 20-30 minutes and then need

_ Roxio Toast™ 10 Pro incl. BD-component

_ BD disks and burner if full length movies are to be stored

_ BD-Player or PlayStation3 - to be able to playback

The BD-encoded DVDs can be play-backed IF Mac also have Roxio DVD-player tool. Not on any standard Mac or DVD-player

Full BD-disks needs a BD-player (in Mac) as they need blue-laser to be read. No red-laser can do this.


• HOW much free space is there on Your internal (start-up) hard disk. Go for approx. 25Gb.

less than 5Gb and Your result will most probably not play.


• How it was recorded - Tripod vs Handheld Camera. A stable picture will give a much higher quality


• Audio is most often more critical than picture. Bad audio and with dropouts usually results in a non-viewed movie.


• Use of Video-editor. iMovie’08 or 09 or 11 are not the tools for DVD-production. They discard every second line resulting in a close to VHS-tape quality.

iMovie 1 to HD6 and FinalCut any version delivers same quality as Camera record in = 100% to iDVD


• What kind of movie project You drop into it. MPEG4 seems to be a bad choice.

other strange formats are .avi, .wmv, .flash etc. Convert to streamingDV first

Also audio formats matters. I use only .aiff or from miniDV tape Camera 16-bit

strange formats often problematic are .avi, .wmv, audio from iTunes, .mp3 etc

Convert to .aiff first and use this in movie project


• What kind of standard - NTSC movie and NTSC DVD or PAL to PAL - no mix.

(If You need to change to do a NTSC DVD from PAL material let JES_Deinterlacer_3.2.2 do the conversion)

(Dropping a PAL movie into a NTSC iDVD project

(US) NTSC DVDs most often are playable in EU

(EU) PAL DVDs most often needs to be converted to play in US

UNLESS. They are play-backed by a Mac - then You need not to care


• What kind of DVDs You are using. I use Verbatim DVD-R (this brand AND no +R or +/-RW)


• How You encode and burn it. Two settings prior iDVD’08 or 09

Pro Quality (only in iDVD 08 & 09)

Best / High Quality (not always - most often not)

Best / High Performances (most often my choice before Pro Quality)


1. go to iDVD pref. menu and select tab far right and set burn speed to x1 (less errors = plays better) - only in iDVD 08 & 09

(x4 by some and may be even better)

2. Project info. Select Professional Encoding - only in iDVD 08 & 09.


Region codes.

iDVD - only burn Region = 0 - meaning - DVDs are playable everywhere


DVD Studio pro can set Region codes.

1 = US

2 = EU


unclemano wrote


What it turned out to be was the "quality" settings in iDVD. The total clip time was NOT over 2 hours or 4.7GB, yet iDVD created massive visual artifacts on the "professional quality" setting.


I switched the settings to "high quality" which solved the problem. According iDVD help, "high quality" determines the best bit rate for the clips you have.


I have NEVER seen iDVD do this before, especially when I was under the 2 hour and 4.7GB limits.


For anyone else, there seem to be 2 places in iDVD to set quality settings, the first is under "preferences" and the second under "project info." They do NOT seem to be linked (i.e. if you change one, the other is NOT changed). take care, Mario


TO GET IT TO WORK SLIGHTLY FASTER

• Minimum of 25Gb free space on Start-Up hard disk

• No other programs running in BackGround e.g. Energy-Saver

• Don’t let HD spin down or be turned off (in Energy-Save)

• Move hard disks that are not to be used to Trash - To be disconnected/turned off

• Goto Spotlight and set the rest of them under Integrity (not to be scanned)

• Set screen-saver to a folder without any photo - then make an active corner (up right for me) and set

pointer to this - turns on screen saver - to show that it has nothing to show


Yours Bengt W

Mar 9, 2012 12:11 PM in response to Old Toad

I use this program to capture as MTS, it also has an option to convert to mp4.


http://www.hdpvrcapture.com/cms/



And by crap what do you mean exactly? How is it of less quality than the other versions?


I'm not even sure how to explain it. Its not very sharp at all, it looks very cubed??? The mp4 and mts are sharp. Also, when the dvd is burned the text writing seems very bouncy as well.



Save or export from what application?

The guy above suggested editing in imovie but not to export or save it, so he had me confused.

Mar 9, 2012 12:21 PM in response to thomasmontalto

Bengt is way more knowledgeable about iDVD than I. What he's suggesting is if you can get the movie into iMovie 6 just save the project and drag the project file, MyGreatMovie.iMovieProject, into the iDVD menu window. That avoids iMovie from encodeing the movie and then having iDVD do another endoding which will lessen the final quality.


If you are using iMovie 11 the use the Share ➙ Media Browser menu option. That creates a higher qualtiy/resolution movie than the Share ➙ iDVD menu option. Then go to the Media Browser window in iDVD and drag the movie into the menu being careful to avoid any drop zones.


This is the first topic that I konw of where someone was using the HD PVR device so we're not well versed on what might be a sure fix.

Mar 9, 2012 12:27 PM in response to Old Toad

Old Toad wrote:


Bengt is way more knowledgeable about iDVD than I. What he's suggesting is if you can get the movie into iMovie 6 just save the project and drag the project file, MyGreatMovie.iMovieProject, into the iDVD menu window. That avoids iMovie from encodeing the movie and then having iDVD do another endoding which will lessen the final quality.


If you are using iMovie 11 the use the Share ➙ Media Browser menu option. That creates a higher qualtiy/resolution movie than the Share ➙ iDVD menu option. Then go to the Media Browser window in iDVD and drag the movie into the menu being careful to avoid any drop zones.


This is the first topic that I konw of where someone was using the HD PVR device so we're not well versed on what might be a sure fix.

Thanks! I will try this, I have iMovie 11!


Can I make a menu with iDVD then? I have two mp4's I would like to put on one DVD?

Mar 10, 2012 8:33 AM in response to thomasmontalto

Pro Quality - I always !


Can You open Your original material in QuickTime ?


Can Your QT export (QT-pro)


If so - Export as .mpeg4 - AND HERE SELECT H.264 and same fps as original. 25 or 29.97 ?


Use this in iDVD or iMovie.


Free space on Start-Up (Mac OS) hard disk - well above 25Gb (other hard disks can not be addressed so of no interest) ?


Yours Wildly suggesting - Bengt W

Mar 10, 2012 8:43 AM in response to Bengt Wärleby

First, I want to thank you for your time. I really appreciate your help in trying to help me get this going.


I do have Quicktime, but I do not see an option to export. So far I have had to use the program I capture with to export from mts to mp4, but the creator of that program tells me nothing is lost in quality as far as that export.


I do have over 100GB free on the start up drive. I do have external hard drives as well which is where I store my video files that I capture.

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