Macbook battery draining while plugged in and idle?

This morning I set to work on my laptop as usual. I typically leave it plugged in while not moving around, and today was no exception. I h ave a 15" macbook I purchased in December of 2010, and it's currently running OS X 10.6.8, if that makes a difference.


Anyhow, when I started up my Macbook and set to work, the battery was fully charged (indicator read that it was fully charge, and that the power source was the power adapter). The power adapter light was green. I then stood up and did some work for roughly 2 hours away from the laptop. When Ieft, I put the display to sleep - In the background the machine was still running a webbrowser (reading an all-text page) and preview (a PDF was open). This is nothing out of the oridinary, and I do it all the time usually.


What was unusual was when I returned to my machine after 2 hours of idling (with the display asleep) to find that my battery had been almost completely drained. The power adapter light was now orange, and the indicator showed that the battery was only 4% charged. The power source was still displayed as the power adapter.


I understand that during intense processses the Macbook will draw from the battery AND the power adapter - But my Macbook was simply idling! I can't fathom that a webbrowser and Preview would require THAT much draw for power. In fact, I've run my Macbook MUCH more intensely for much longer periods of time when running Final Cut and Adobe After Effects and NEVER seen this issue before.


Is this an indication of a failing battery? Ever since I noticed this, the charging time indicated has held steady at ~1:13 (that's been about a half an hour now). I don't know if the Macbook will discharge the battery completely every so often by itself, or if the battery is just failing and that's why it went from 100% to 4% in just under two hours while idle.


Any help or advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Mar 9, 2012 10:28 AM

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Mar 9, 2012 10:38 AM in response to Carbonyl

The charging circuitry takes the battery to 100% charge, then shuts down and the unit will run on the chargeer even while in sleep mode. The battery does trickle discharge, all batteries do, even while on the charger. When the battery charge level gets down to something in the range of 93-95% charge, the charge circuitry kicks in and tops off the battery, then shuts off again. Cycles that way as long as it is plugged in.


It sounds unusual that the machine would draw down the battery almost completely while in display-sleep mode with just something running in the background, unless that something was pulling in the discreet gpu in addition to the normal gpu. Not many processes demand that kind of power...unless you had a power loss on that circuit??


Check the battery condition: apple menu, About This Mac, More Info, System Report, Hardware, Power and what is the battery Condition, Capacity, Charge remaining, Cycle count, and Voltage.

Mar 9, 2012 11:04 AM in response to Ralph Landry1

Thanks much for the assistance on this matter. I appreciate the information you're helping me find! As of now, I'll note that the battery has jumped in charge since I last posted. It's up to 63% with 45 min charging time estimated.


The information you requested is this, I believe (in addition to some other details):

Charge Information:

Charge remaining (mAh): 4339

Fully charged: No

Charging: Yes

Full charge capacity (mAh): 6928

Health Information:

Cycle count: 13

Condition: Normal

Battery Installed: Yes

Amperage (mA): 3465

Voltage (mV): 12250

Mar 9, 2012 11:22 AM in response to Carbonyl

That all looks pretty normal...you want to see the Condition as Normal, otherwise there may be a problem. Capacity of 6928 mAh is essentially an as-built capacity so that is good, and only 13 charge cycles, you haven't used this MBP off the charger very much. Batteries last longer if they get period use, might want to disconnect the MagSafe connector at least a couple times a month or so, and run it down to 50% and then recharge. Exercise is good for batteries, just like people 🙂


The voltage is right where you want it in the 12 to 12.5 volt range so that is good, all cells are healthy.


Overall that looks like a good battery, I would just exercise it off the charger a little more...if you weren't running something really cpu/gpu intensive earlier, who knows, maybe the battery was just expressing it's displeasure at not getting to play 😝

Mar 11, 2012 10:35 AM in response to Ralph Landry1

I can't believe it, but this just happened again, right before my eyes!


Even after having been drained to 0% and then charged all the way back up to 100% no more than two days ago, today while I was using my laptop I literally saw the battery indicator drop from fully charged to 0% immediately! The power information in the system profiler showed 43 mAh charge available, even though I KNOW it was fully charged not moments before.


I'm using a surge protector and everything, if is it possible that some kind of physical event could dump the entirety of my battery? This is getting very strange.

Mar 14, 2012 3:04 AM in response to Ralph Landry1

Ralph,


If you would be so kind as to offer your expert opinion of my battery life I would greatly appreciate it?


Charge Information:

Charge remaining (mAh): 3096

Fully charged: No

Charging: No

Full charge capacity (mAh): 4243

Health Information:

Cycle count: 149

Condition: Normal

Battery Installed: Yes

Amperage (mA): -1148

Voltage (mV): 11783


Thanks in advance for your help!!

Mar 14, 2012 3:23 AM in response to thunderfan

Hi Thunderfan,


What machine do you have and vintage? Reason I ask is the capacity is low for a MacBook Pro of current vintage, but would be fine for an older model or MacBook Air or MacBook. Current MBP batteries are usually in the 6000-7000 mAh range. The older machines and others noted are fine below 5000 mAh.


Your cycle count should be ok, again with the same comments just made. Apple has increased the ratings for the newer batteries to 1,000 cycles, while many of the older model machines had ratings in the 300-500 cycle range.


Keep in mind that cycle life is a statistical thing, the predicted life is the peak of a normal, or Gaussian, distribution. Some will fail sooner, some later. So when the predicted life is 1,000 cycles that is a norm and not an individual guarantee.


Voltage is ok at 11.8 volts, again noting the model and age, more typical is 12 volts, but that does vary with load and services you have running. Not something to worry about, especially since the condition is rated as Normal.


I would not worry about that battery unless you are having problems you have not noted.


As a final note: batteries are consumable items, eventually they need to be replaced just like in a flashlight or automobile. Exercise them periodically by unpluging the charger, run them down a ways, maybe half or so, and recharge. Like people, they do better with regular exercise 🙂

Mar 14, 2012 4:35 AM in response to thunderfan

This knowledge base articlegives projected battery life cycle counts for the Apple portables.


A 2008 machine looks like it will be in the 300-500 cycle range depending on the exact date of the MBP. I would not fixate on the battery information unless something seems to be going wrong or you start getting messages to service the battery. Often the first time that pops up people manage to clear it by taking the battery through a full charge cycle, i.e., discharge to the point the MBP shuts off, do not force it to restart, and charge fully before using again. That seems to be clearing the service battery message the first time. Haven't heard from people getting repeated messages that did not end up getting a new battery.


BTW, just noticed when I went to the knowledge base area that Apple store prices on new batteries seem to all come in around $129 (US), not that you need to worry about that right now...just a little tid bit of info 🙂

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