JVC camcorder and Quicktime

Hi guys, I have tried this question in Quicktime forum but I think the Pro's will have the answer for me, only 1 reply there.

I am considering buying a JVC GZMG50EK hard drive camcorder and need some help with the file format.

I have been told that when a file is downloaded to the Mac it needs to be converted through JVC software to open in Quicktime, is this correct?

I thought I could just click on the file and it would go through Quicktime as the default programme. Is it something to do with converting from mpeg2 to mpeg 4?

I have also read that there is a plug in which will enable quicktime to open mpeg2.

I am trying to keep workflow to a minimum and I am told that the JVC software takes 5 mins to convert a 16 second clip.

I am a pro stills photographer but have'nt got a clue about video!

Is this info correct?
Can anyone help before I buy?

Wayne D

I mac G5, Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Posted on Feb 25, 2006 11:48 AM

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Feb 25, 2006 12:44 PM in response to Wayne D

you dont say why you want to buy a hard disc recording camcorder, it woould be an interesting and precarious choice.

this camera is a domestic product, it is not a professional quality camera, it would be a good purchase for home use to easily make DVD video's of your family events, without using tape.

the camera is designed to do the following:

record an event onto the hard drive then use the video files to make a DVD video disc so that it can be played on a DVD video player.

it uses video quality recordings exactly the same as DVD video, the hard drive records MPEG2 video which is what DVD video is. normally before making the DVD, DV video from tape has to be compressed and converted to MPEG 2 taking many times longer to encode than to play, this camera does it in real time while recording.


As DVD is a highly compressed format to be used as an end product it is not best suited for further editing

JVC has a technology alliance with Microsoft Windows based software, therefore the software will not work with a Mac. The camera is supplied with DVD authoring software, you will need a recent fast Windows XP based computer to make it run.



I have a professional JVC camera which has the ability to record to an onboard hard drive. I was offered the hard drive at a give away price so the dealer could use me as a test bed. I declined and went for tape to give me the quality and performance I need.

There should be a very good reason to choose a hard drive camera instead of tape to justify such a purpose.

It sounds as if you would be far better buying a mini DV tape based camcorder from JVC, theres lots to choose from.


regards

Gary

Feb 25, 2006 3:02 PM in response to Gary Scotland

Hi Gary,thanks for the info.

The reason I want the hard drive version is because it is more important for me to be able to download and file quick and easily. The picture quality doesn't need to be top end as it is only appearing on the internet at a small file size. The stills are more important as they will appear in brochures, I have digital SLR's for this.

Workflow is the key and I already spend a lot of time with RAW files from the SLR'S. I am basically trying to save on extra Mac work.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks
Wayne

Feb 25, 2006 3:20 PM in response to Jerry Hofmann

Jerry, I have been advised that using tape will give me a slower workflow.

What I want is something to take 20 second video clips, create immediate, seperate files I can download straight to the mac,name and save to open in Quicktime. I might be shooting a number of 20 second clips of different things and I want the easiest way to do it.

Surely working with tapes will take longer?

It is the workflow I am concerned with,thats why I need to know how it will work with quicktime.

I am new to video and dont' want to get it wrong as I am going on a 30 day shoot next week.

The so called experts in the shops haven't got a clue!

Wayne

Feb 25, 2006 3:56 PM in response to Wayne D

I don't think it will be much slower because you still have to do a conversion of this material to edit it in FCP, and the quality of MPEG recordings leaves a lot to be desired. DV would not only be about as fast, but it also could be recorded to a hard drive at the same time if you really needed speed.

It's the quality of the picture that is going to suffer with this camera. Specs are MPEG-2 recordings... it's really not the way to do things at all unless quality doesn't matter. Depending on what you shoot, like any sort of fast motion will have artifact in it because MPEG isn't an "i" frame format. It really only records every 7-15 frames in whole then only records the differences between frames... if there's a lot of movement you'll see uglies...

Jerry

Feb 25, 2006 7:50 PM in response to Wayne D

Wayne,

It sounds like what you're looking for is a camcorder that will work with a Firestore (or similar) unit. Essentially, when connected to your camcorder it records the AV signal directly to the Firestore's internal hard drive as well as to the camera tape. When you're finished shooting, connect the Firestore to your computer for file transfer and editing. From what I've heard and read, they are capable of recording DV NTSC quality and resolution in several formats, QuickTime among them (but don't take my word for it).

-DH

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