When there is a browser update like this Safari 5.1.4, Is there an article that instructs one the ideal way to update to a newer version of a browser like this newer version of Safari? Is it best to close Safari and all other apps, restart...

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When there is a browser update like this Safari 5.1.4, Is there an article that instructs one the ideal way to update to a newer version of a browser like this newer version of Safari? Is it best to close Safari and all other apps, restart...

When there is an update to a newer version of a browser like this update to Safari 5.1.4, is there an article that goes over the best way to update to a newer version of a browser that one knows of? Is it best to close all apps, install the update, turn the computer off, turn it on and hold down the shift key until the gear and progress bar are showing, when this is finished, do a restart of the computer. I hav always wondered the best way (if there is a best way) to update to a newer version of a browser so you avoid potential problems. Is there a Support Article that goes over installing and updating to a newer version of one's browser, in this case Safari?

Thanks.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 500 GB HD 7200 rpm

Posted on Mar 13, 2012 5:07 PM

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Answer 1

Klaus1

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Mar 13, 2012 5:38 PM in response to NObodE

Yes, close all applications, install and restart your Mac.

Also, observe the recommended procedure for installing software: repair permissions and close all applications, install, then repair permissions again.)

Input Managers and other plug-ins from third parties can do as much harm as good. They use a security loophole to reach right into your applications' code and change that code as the application starts up. If Safari is crashing, the very first thing to do is clear out your InputManagers folders (both in your own Library and in the top-level Library), log out and log back in, and try again.

So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari.

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Linc Davis

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Mar 13, 2012 5:48 PM in response to NObodE

Just install the update. If Safari is running in another account, the Installer will prompt you to quit it. There's no need to restart or do anything else, apart from backing up your data, which you should be doing anyway.

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Klaus1

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Mar 13, 2012 5:54 PM in response to Linc Davis

That must be something new. I have never seen a Safari update that did not require a restart.

Or is this just another example of you preferring to offer the opposite advice to everyone else?

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Linc Davis

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Mar 13, 2012 6:04 PM in response to Klaus1

As I wrote above, the update to Safari 5.1.4 doesn't require a restart, nor does it require a permission repair.

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Mar 13, 2012 6:07 PM in response to Linc Davis

When using software update in 10.6.8 (not sure about 10.7.x), the icon next to the Safari update has the triangle that says "restart required."

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Linc Davis

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Mar 13, 2012 6:19 PM in response to powerbook1701

That may be. I didn't use Software Update. It may also be different in 10.6 than in 10.7.

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NObodE Author

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Mar 13, 2012 8:13 PM in response to Linc Davis

I am curious what you use if you do not use Software Update? You Update from the website or is 10.7 all together diferent in the way the updates are dealt with?

So is there a consensus yet if Apple recommends a "better" or best way to install an update for a newer browser version?

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Linc Davis

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Mar 13, 2012 8:21 PM in response to NObodE

I usually prefer to download updates from the Apple Support site. You can do it either way. I like to have a persistent updater so I can do more than one installation without having to re-download.

Installing a browser update is no different from installing any other update. Just follow the prompts. If you need to restart, you be prompted to do that.

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NObodE Author

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Mar 13, 2012 8:39 PM in response to Linc Davis

I understand that as far installing a browser update, I was curious about using the Apple Support Site. I have had several people tell me to use the Apple Support Website, but not being very tech savy, I was not sure if I would mess things up goingot the website.

I have even heard different responses about reparing permissions. Some people have told me to use the disc, turn the computer off, insert the disk, and go through the process of somehow getting the Disk Utility up. I have never repaird permissions.

Linc, do you know what inserting the OSX disc, restarting the computer and holding down the "D" does? I was told to do this on another website, but I was lost so I left that website and came back here. I was not following the person on what this procedure was for. do you know?

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Linc Davis

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Mar 13, 2012 8:55 PM in response to NObodE

I have never repaird permissions.

You're not missing anything.

... do you know what inserting the OSX disc, restarting the computer and holding down the "D" does?

Nothing. If you insert the Applications disc, it runs the Apple Hardware Test.

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Klaus1

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Mar 14, 2012 2:32 AM in response to NObodE

The following may or may not apply to Lion:

Repairing permissions is important, and should always be carried out both before and after any software installation or update.

Go to Disk Utility (this is in your Utilities Folder in your Application folder) and click on the icon of your hard disk (not the one with all the numbers).

In First Aid, click on Repair Permissions.

This only takes a minute or two in Tiger, but much longer in Later versions of OS X.

Background information here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1452?viewlocale=en_US

and here:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302672

An article on troubleshooting Permissions can be found here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2963

By the way, you can ignore any messages about SUID or ACL file permissions, as explained here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448?

If you were having any serious problems with your Mac you might as well complete the exercise by repairing your hard disk as well. You cannot do this from the same start-up disk. Reboot from your install disk (holding down the C key). Once it opens, select your language, and then go to Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. Select your hard disk as before and click Repair.

Once that is complete reboot again from your usual start-up disk.

More useful reading here:

Resolve startup issues and perform disk maintenance with Disk Utility and fsck

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1417?viewlocale=en_US

For a full description of how to resolve Disk, Permission and Cache Corruption, you should read this FAQ from the X Lab:

http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/repairprocess.html

Apple's advice on general maintenance:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1147?viewlocale=en_US

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NObodE Author

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Mar 14, 2012 4:20 AM in response to Klaus1

Was you reply for Lion OS? I have SL.

Let me see if I can explain this correctly. I was always told you should repair permissions using Disk Utility without doing anything with the OS disk, just use it from the app that is in finder. I never understood this because when I use Disk Utility from the dock I have close to the same permissions that were there before I repaired what showed up. I do a trial run forst to see what shows up and what the Disk Utiity repairs. However when I install the disk when the machine is off, turn it on, select all the correct headins so I am where I should be, go through a repair the Persissions of the HD they are all gone, which I guess means they are repaired. Once in awhile it takes 2 runs at it to repair them all, but it does repair them all or they are all gone compared to what little repairing the Disk Utility does just opening it up when the Mac is on and opne it from the dock or findr and go through the sme process. there are no changes when I do it this way opposed to boting up with the OS disk in the dVD drive, get it opened before the computer boots up and do a repair permissions that way. it will clear away all of the permissions. I never under stood this because I do not know what I am doing most of the time, but people who are experts in here say you do not have to use the disk just use the icon and do it while the computer is on and in its full operation mode. anyway, I think I explained myself correctly.

Thanks for all the info. that will be a good resource. sorry for the sloppy typing but I have to jet.

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Linc Davis

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Mar 14, 2012 5:16 AM in response to NObodE

There’s never a reason to repair permissions, except in the rare case of a permission error involving system files, which you'll probably never see, or a boot failure. The built-in help for Disk Utility says:

Repairing disk permissions

If you see an alert or a message that says your permissions are set incorrectly, you can correct the disk’s permissions by clicking Repair Disk Permissions.

It’s not completely irrational to repair permissions after running a third-party installer, since such installers have been known to set incorrect permissions. Otherwise, repairing permissions is a waste of time.

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Klaus1

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Mar 14, 2012 7:15 AM in response to NObodE

I was always told you should repair permissions using Disk Utility without doing anything with the OS disk, just use it from the app that is in finder.

That is the correct procedure. It's repairing the hard drive that has to be done from the install DVD.

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NObodE Author

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Mar 14, 2012 8:58 PM in response to Klaus1

klaus-

I appreciate your help. I do not completely understand 3rd party add-ons. I do not think I have any 3rd party add-ons. Your post up at the top is an area I am not very knowlegeable in. Adding them back one by one is something I would have to know more about or it seems sinc I am not aware of what you are talking about, I could really mess things up. The topics in that post at the bery top has several impotant points in it, but neither of them do I know what you are talking about.

As far as repairing permissions by using the OS disk, I am glad that somebody finally agrees with what I had learned. I do not think I have come across another person who has told me that using the OS disk is the best way to repair permissions and not use the Disk Utility that is in /findr or the dock but the actual OS disk, restart and go from there to locate your language, and Repair Permissions in the Macs HD. I just noticed that there is a "TTD.dmg" on the far left column in the Disk Utility that is in the dock. I just opened it to see something and I have never noticed tis before, but I think it is from installing the Tech Tool deluxe my brother did when he borowed my MBP. He said it is best to install this, but I had never noticed that it also has TTD.dmg in the far left column of the disk Utility opened up. Is this bad to have this "TTD.dmg" located here in the Disk Utility?

Do you know the aticle number od URL that explains how to currently use the OS disk to repair permissions? I use to know where it was but I was not able to find it last time I tried.

Somebody told me to hold down the "D" after you install the OS disk and keep it help down while the OS disk does its thing. I do not remember why this person told me to do this or what this does. do you know if holding down the "D" , restart, and while the OS disk is "rotating" keep the "D" help down. Do you know if this does any good?

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