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Late 2008 Unibody Macbook--SSD?

The fiance has an oldish Late 2008 Unibody Macbook (before they rebadged them into Pros...) that I'm looking to breath some life into. It's a real dog and I was thinking I might put a 120GB SSD into it. She's already upgraded to Lion so that should help, but...


I keep finding SSDs are notoriously finicky in Macbooks. I have found many people complaining the most popular models (Crucial M4, OCZ Vertex) will not work in a Macbook of this vintage.


Are there any drives that are known to work well with this machine? If it had an SSD she could probably get 3 or more years out of it, but it's a total dog with the old hard drive.


Thanks for any help.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.7.3), Late 2008

Posted on Mar 21, 2012 7:32 PM

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Posted on Mar 21, 2012 7:42 PM

If it's a late 2008 model that's running Lion, then you very well need more RAM, not an SSD. For decent performance with Lion you need 4 GBs of installed RAM - more if you tend to run a lot of concurrent applications that require a lot of RAM. Having a too small SSD may not be as useful as a large, fast HDD.


For the most compatible and fastest SSDs check out those at OWC. Or consider installing a Seagate XT Hybrid HDD. I'm not convinced why you think an SSD will give the computer another three years or more of use. It's already a four year old computer. It's really about ready to be replaced.


It wouldn't hurt to perform some system maintenance:


Kappy's Personal Suggestions for OS X Maintenance


For disk repairs use Disk Utility. For situations DU cannot handle the best third-party utilities are: Disk Warrior; DW only fixes problems with the disk directory, but most disk problems are caused by directory corruption; Disk Warrior 4.x is now Intel Mac compatible. Drive Genius provides additional tools not found in Disk Warrior. Versions 1.5.1 and later are Intel Mac compatible.


OS X performs certain maintenance functions that are scheduled to occur on a daily, weekly, or monthly period. The maintenance scripts run in the early AM only if the computer is turned on 24/7 (no sleep.) If this isn't the case, then an excellent solution is to download and install a shareware utility such as Macaroni, JAW PseudoAnacron, or Anacron that will automate the maintenance activity regardless of whether the computer is turned off or asleep. Dependence upon third-party utilities to run the periodic maintenance scripts was significantly reduced since Tiger. These utilities have limited or no functionality with Snow Leopard or Lion and should not be installed.


OS X automatically defragments files less than 20 MBs in size, so unless you have a disk full of very large files there's little need for defragmenting the hard drive. As for virus protection there are few if any such animals affecting OS X. You can protect the computer easily using the freeware Open Source virus protection software ClamXAV. Personally I would avoid most commercial anti-virus software because of their potential for causing problems. For more about malware see Macintosh Virus Guide.


I would also recommend downloading a utility such as TinkerTool System, OnyX 2.4.3, or Cocktail 5.1.1 that you can use for periodic maintenance such as removing old log files and archives, clearing caches, etc.


For emergency repairs install the freeware utility Applejack. If you cannot start up in OS X, you may be able to start in single-user mode from which you can run Applejack to do a whole set of repair and maintenance routines from the command line. Note that AppleJack 1.5 is required for Leopard. AppleJack 1.6 is compatible with Snow Leopard. There is no confirmation that this version also works with Lion.


When you install any new system software or updates be sure to repair the hard drive and permissions beforehand. I also recommend booting into safe mode before doing system software updates.


Get an external Firewire drive at least equal in size to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone using the Restore option of Disk Utility. You can also make and maintain clones with good backup software. My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):


Carbon Copy Cloner

Data Backup

Deja Vu

SuperDuper!

SyncTwoFolders

Synk Pro

Synk Standard

Tri-Backup


Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQs on maintenance, optimization, virus protection, and backup and restore.


Additional suggestions will be found in Mac Maintenance Quick Assist.


Referenced software can be found at CNet Downloads or MacUpdate.


Be sure you have an adequate amount of RAM installed for the number of applications you run concurrently. Be sure you leave a minimum of 10% of the hard drive's capacity as free space.

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Mar 21, 2012 7:42 PM in response to scouzer

If it's a late 2008 model that's running Lion, then you very well need more RAM, not an SSD. For decent performance with Lion you need 4 GBs of installed RAM - more if you tend to run a lot of concurrent applications that require a lot of RAM. Having a too small SSD may not be as useful as a large, fast HDD.


For the most compatible and fastest SSDs check out those at OWC. Or consider installing a Seagate XT Hybrid HDD. I'm not convinced why you think an SSD will give the computer another three years or more of use. It's already a four year old computer. It's really about ready to be replaced.


It wouldn't hurt to perform some system maintenance:


Kappy's Personal Suggestions for OS X Maintenance


For disk repairs use Disk Utility. For situations DU cannot handle the best third-party utilities are: Disk Warrior; DW only fixes problems with the disk directory, but most disk problems are caused by directory corruption; Disk Warrior 4.x is now Intel Mac compatible. Drive Genius provides additional tools not found in Disk Warrior. Versions 1.5.1 and later are Intel Mac compatible.


OS X performs certain maintenance functions that are scheduled to occur on a daily, weekly, or monthly period. The maintenance scripts run in the early AM only if the computer is turned on 24/7 (no sleep.) If this isn't the case, then an excellent solution is to download and install a shareware utility such as Macaroni, JAW PseudoAnacron, or Anacron that will automate the maintenance activity regardless of whether the computer is turned off or asleep. Dependence upon third-party utilities to run the periodic maintenance scripts was significantly reduced since Tiger. These utilities have limited or no functionality with Snow Leopard or Lion and should not be installed.


OS X automatically defragments files less than 20 MBs in size, so unless you have a disk full of very large files there's little need for defragmenting the hard drive. As for virus protection there are few if any such animals affecting OS X. You can protect the computer easily using the freeware Open Source virus protection software ClamXAV. Personally I would avoid most commercial anti-virus software because of their potential for causing problems. For more about malware see Macintosh Virus Guide.


I would also recommend downloading a utility such as TinkerTool System, OnyX 2.4.3, or Cocktail 5.1.1 that you can use for periodic maintenance such as removing old log files and archives, clearing caches, etc.


For emergency repairs install the freeware utility Applejack. If you cannot start up in OS X, you may be able to start in single-user mode from which you can run Applejack to do a whole set of repair and maintenance routines from the command line. Note that AppleJack 1.5 is required for Leopard. AppleJack 1.6 is compatible with Snow Leopard. There is no confirmation that this version also works with Lion.


When you install any new system software or updates be sure to repair the hard drive and permissions beforehand. I also recommend booting into safe mode before doing system software updates.


Get an external Firewire drive at least equal in size to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone using the Restore option of Disk Utility. You can also make and maintain clones with good backup software. My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):


Carbon Copy Cloner

Data Backup

Deja Vu

SuperDuper!

SyncTwoFolders

Synk Pro

Synk Standard

Tri-Backup


Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQs on maintenance, optimization, virus protection, and backup and restore.


Additional suggestions will be found in Mac Maintenance Quick Assist.


Referenced software can be found at CNet Downloads or MacUpdate.


Be sure you have an adequate amount of RAM installed for the number of applications you run concurrently. Be sure you leave a minimum of 10% of the hard drive's capacity as free space.

Mar 21, 2012 7:47 PM in response to Kappy

Thanks for the detailed reply. I had not considered that Lion significantly increased RAM usage... an oversight for sure.


If she had more RAM and an SSD, it'd definitely last her another 3 years minimum. She doesn't use the machine a whole lot, and what little she uses it is light duty, ie Office and Facebook.


I intend to fresh install Lion even if I don't get an SSD as it's probably time regardless. That should speed things up a lot.


The OWC website I'm a little skeptical--they are selling SSDs that have known issues with some Macs.

Mar 21, 2012 7:55 PM in response to scouzer

Then don't waste money on an SSD. Not much point if all she will do is use Office and Facebook. Not a lot of need for an SSD there.


If you plan on doing a system reinstall consider reverting back to Snow Leopard because it has a smaller footprint than Lion and would run a tad faster on that older machine. Snow Leopard requires a minimum of 1 GB of RAM while Lion requires a minimum of 2 GBs. She doesn't need Lion for her uses.


I don't know of any issues OWC's SSDs have with Macs. I have several of them and no complaints. But you can buy OCZ or some other brand if you really want to learn about incompatibility with Macs.

Jun 27, 2012 2:24 PM in response to scouzer

I upgraded my late 2008 unibody macbook with an intel x25-m 120gb ssd and 8gb of RAM from OWC. Its a monster - best computer I have ever owned and runs much more smoothly than my late 2009 27-inch quad-core Imac with 8 gigs of RAM. In my experience the big payoff from the SSD has been precisely in the day to day types of tasks that take forever to load on a conventional HD.

BTW still using Snow Leopard.

Mar 1, 2013 10:07 AM in response to avh4058

Can I ask if you had any troubles making the upgrade to ssd drive or any special issues?

I also have a late 2008 unibody macbook which I'm planning to upgrade with a Samsung SSD 840 series 250 GB. The plan is this:


1 connect the ssd to the usb port

2 Format the ssd using osx disc utility

3 clone the hdd to the ssd also using the osx disc utility

4 Alt boot to test the ssd

5 make the bootcamp partition on the ssd

6 using winclone or some other software to clone my W7 and datafiles on the hdd to the ssd

7 take out the hdd and put in the ssd in the macbook


Will this be a okay procedure?


Thanks.

Apr 3, 2013 10:25 AM in response to wnhs

Hi WNHS


Yes I did and it works very very nice. Bought the SAMSUNG 840 250GB ssd. Boottime for both Mac and Windows7 on the BootCamp is now approx. 35 seconds and programs/file transfers starts/runs a bit more speedy.


Have bought a new external HD which now has 2 partitions - one matching MacBook which runs TimeMachine and the other partition is MS DOS FAT32 so my wife and I can share photos from both our W7 laptop and the MB.


The software from Samsung can only be installed on W7 and being no expert it seems you only can use it on the BootCamp partition even it shows the MB partition as well.


If you have any further questions fell free to ask.


Regards

Sven

Apr 10, 2013 9:59 AM in response to scouzer

Macbook aluminium late 2008 model when u update to OSX mountain lion will very slow.
u can upgrade hardware to improve.
1st is Ram =4GB x 2 = 8GB 1333 or 1066ram also can use.

2nd SSD intel (reliability) we not only want speed only.


Ram can upgrade to 4GB(apple), 6GB (max) is actual test.

If u update to OS X mountain lion then Ram can upgrade to 8GB (max) actual test.

original is use 1066 Ram,but this actual test can support 1333 Ram..

so u can choose Corsair Mac Memory or Kingston Mac Memory.


for macbook late 2008 unibody with mountain lion user. after upgrade Ram and SSD will become
new macbook pro.


my opinion,

this is my personal actual test...my macbook now mountain lion with Corsair 8GB 1333 + 500GB harddrive for Data + intel 120GB SSD for system (optical drive remove)


Full Working !



by raytooth

May 1, 2013 3:31 AM in response to ctc32

i use intel 330series 120GB ...detail >


Sequential Read 500 MB/s
Sequential Write 450 MB/s
Random Read (8GB Span) 22500 IOPS
Random Write (8GB Span) 33000 IOPS

SSD sure fast fast that harddrive...when u system running mountain lion will very slow...when u upgrade ssd then u speed will feel more stable.


but if more stable SSD u can choose Intel 520 series ,2nd is 330 series..
Intel SSD is Stable and Speed u need...(we not only want speed ..)

May 7, 2013 9:07 PM in response to scouzer

I have a very well kept Macbook Unibody from 2008. Got an OCZ SSD and 8GB of RAM in it with Mountain Lion installed. I'm a software engineer and it's more than enough for me.


In fact, I just got a brand new 15" MBP with a quad-core i7 but a normal HDD. The bootime is actually faster on the 2008 MB than the 2012 MBP simply because of the SSD.


Sure, while compiling code the MBP is a bit faster, but for the most part, I don't see the value of replacing my 2008 in the foreseeable future. It's just that good.

Late 2008 Unibody Macbook--SSD?

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