DanielJoshuaLambert

Q: Almost every shoot I do, Aperture manages to corrupt 5-10 RAW images?

I use a Canon 600D, all software is updated.
I transfer images through USB cable.

 

I've tried repairing and rebuilding (command/option keys when clicking Aperture) however, I always (without fail) get 5-10 corrupted images (or at least seem corrupted).

 

How can I fix this? I think luckily all the photos on the camera are OK, however it's getting to the point where I'm too scared to delete them off it as Aperture might corrupt fantastic shots.

 

Any help will be apprecited... can't seem to find an answer yet.

 

Daniel

Aperture 3, Mac OS X (10.7.3)

Posted on Mar 22, 2012 11:31 AM

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  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Apr 4, 2012 8:23 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert
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    Apr 4, 2012 8:23 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert

    Clarify, please -- is the Aperture Library on your main internal hard drive, and the Masters are Managed?

     

    What are we seeing in these links -- an exported JPEG or a screenshot?

     

    Ernie

  • by DanielJoshuaLambert,

    DanielJoshuaLambert DanielJoshuaLambert Apr 4, 2012 8:25 AM in response to Ernie Stamper
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    Apr 4, 2012 8:25 AM in response to Ernie Stamper

    Yes on my internal HD, all imported through Aperture and kept there (nothing external)

     

    These images are a export from a master to JPEG

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Apr 4, 2012 8:30 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert
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    Apr 4, 2012 8:30 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert

    Export from the Master to JPEG is not an option in Aperture.  Only a Version can be exported as a JPEG where the master is a RAW.  Explain, please?

     

    Ernie

  • by DanielJoshuaLambert,

    DanielJoshuaLambert DanielJoshuaLambert Apr 4, 2012 8:47 AM in response to Ernie Stamper
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    Apr 4, 2012 8:47 AM in response to Ernie Stamper

    Well this is as far as my techinical knowledge goes.

     

    If I open finder, to view the images on the harddrive, they're still showing as corrupted.

     

    How else can I view the master?

  • by Frank Caggiano,

    Frank Caggiano Frank Caggiano Apr 4, 2012 9:02 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert
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    Apr 4, 2012 9:02 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert

    In this whole tread I never once saw if you are shooting RAW or JPG. Which is it? If it's RAW have you tried JPG to see if they are also corrupted?

     

    In your last post you said you open finder to view the images on the HD how did you do that, Quick Preview? Are the masters then referenced (stored outside the Aperture library) or managed (stored in the Aperture Library)?

     

    If you import to the HD first and then import those images into Aperture are the original images also corrupted?

     

    Until this is resolved you should import from the card to the HD and then import those images into Aperture. If the original images are corrupted then you know the problem is in the capture/import chain. If those remain OK and only get corrupted after import into  Aperture then you know the problem is post import/Aperture.

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Apr 4, 2012 9:05 AM in response to Frank Caggiano
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    Apr 4, 2012 9:05 AM in response to Frank Caggiano

    Frank,

     

    His topic Subject says RAW.

     

    Daniel,

     

    Do you mean you are using Show Package Contents for the Aperture Library, finding the Masters folder, and then opening in the Finder?

     

    Ernie

  • by Frank Caggiano,

    Frank Caggiano Frank Caggiano Apr 4, 2012 9:12 AM in response to Ernie Stamper
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    Apr 4, 2012 9:12 AM in response to Ernie Stamper

    Right my bad, so did he ever try JPG's or RAW+JPG to see if those are corrupted also?

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Apr 4, 2012 9:17 AM in response to Frank Caggiano
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    Apr 4, 2012 9:17 AM in response to Frank Caggiano

    I don't know that answer, but the randomness he reports would perhaps not point to that test, although the camera that produced the RAW might be useful to know?

     

    I am still interested to know how the Mastere is being accessed to check, exactly?

     

    Ernie

  • by DanielJoshuaLambert,

    DanielJoshuaLambert DanielJoshuaLambert Apr 4, 2012 10:47 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert
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    Apr 4, 2012 10:47 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert

    Hi all

     

    thanks again for the replies.

     

     

    I forgot to try image capture - so I'm trying that now, although it's very very slow!! I'll let you know how the pictures turn out soon.

     

    And forgive me, I'm probably not sure exactly how I'm viewing the master (if at all!).

     

    Be back soon with an update about image capture then to aperture

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Apr 4, 2012 10:54 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert
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    Apr 4, 2012 10:54 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert

    One way to view, in Aperture, the Master is to press the "M" key to toggle to the Master vs Version.

     

    In a Managed Library in Aperture, the only way to view a Master in the Finder is to locate it via Show Package Content -- I woulld expect you would know whether you are doing that.

     

    It is very important to know whether you are in fact viewing a Master and that it has corrupted, or whether you display of a Version is corrupted, even when exported?

     

    Ernie

  • by DanielJoshuaLambert,

    DanielJoshuaLambert DanielJoshuaLambert Apr 4, 2012 10:58 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert
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    Apr 4, 2012 10:58 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert

    Image capture...again seems positive however when importing to aperture - I got odd corruptions in the viewer mode (which is carried onto the exported image etc).

     

     

    Surely this MUST be aperture doing this, if image capture is fine?

     

    Thanks all

  • by DanielJoshuaLambert,

    DanielJoshuaLambert DanielJoshuaLambert Apr 4, 2012 10:59 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert
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    Apr 4, 2012 10:59 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert

    Sorry... again 5/6 images are corrupted after importing from image capture (fine) then onto aperture.

     

     

    Note: I can even watch all my thumbnails and see odd images going from fine to corrupt. Totally random?!

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Apr 4, 2012 11:17 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert
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    Apr 4, 2012 11:17 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert

    Please email me one of these corrupt images please.  My address can be found by clickin on my name to left and looking in the bio line of the resulting Profile.

     

    Ernie

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Apr 4, 2012 11:20 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert
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    Apr 4, 2012 11:20 AM in response to DanielJoshuaLambert

    Note: I can even watch all my thumbnails and see odd images going from fine to corrupt. Totally random?!

    I saw that happen several times to my images too - scary - and I thought like you, that Aperture was doing that; but it turned out that I just have been watching the moment when Aperture recreated previews from the master image files. In all cases where I suspected Aperture of corrupting my images on import, the original masters backed up directly from the card had been corrupted. It can be confusing if the previews generated by the camera are o.k. and the master images are not, for during import you probably only see the previews. In my case replacing the card reader solved the problem.

     

    Regards

    Léonie

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Apr 4, 2012 11:33 AM in response to léonie
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    Apr 4, 2012 11:33 AM in response to léonie

    The only way that could happen, I think, is when Aperture took the Preview from what had been created in the camera, and then replaced it with a newly generated one, from the corrupt Master.  In that case the Master would have been corrupt when imported, but not noticed until the recreation of the Preview.

     

    Daniel could test this by putting the card in the reader, letting it mount on the Desktop, opening with the Finder, and dragging it off to a new folder on the Mac, and then viewing it with Preview or Photoshop.  Aperture would have to have its Import cancelled when it might open.

     

    Ernie

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