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  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9

    only time to use system duper is before you update the OS in any way

    hopefully you only keep the OS and apps on the boot drive

    maybe a mini-user home folder as well?

    but keep all the data etc on another hard drive - helps performance and also most problems occur with the boot drive and that is easy to restore from your clone backup.


    you can clone the data drives also.


    If only TimeMachine would allow for alternating backup drive sets (daily set, weekl only), or use NAS or Drobo as central shared backup storage.

  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 9 Level 9

    The upgrades you are talking about do not make sense for the work you are doing. You will spend a lot of money and have almsot nothing to show for it.


    I still think getting myself running with an SSD for boot...

    The big payback is for establishing a Boot Drive (with only System, Library, Applications, and the hidden unix files including Paging/Swap. Users Home directories are moved off to another drive.) 


    Putting the Boot Drive on an SSD provides a modest incremental payback at a steep price. Boot Drive is the big prize -- using an SSD for it is frosting on the cake.



    maybe using an SSD for the scratch disc would be beneficial.

    Using scratch disk at all in CS5 makes no sense. That scratch should be in RAM, not on a drive. CS5 in 64-bit mode allows it use over 4GB of RAM directly.


    - If you are not already running CS5, you should upgrade.

    - If you are not running Snow Leopard in 64-bit mode, you should change it to 64-bit mode.

    - If you do not have enough memory, you should add more.

  • willowpc Level 1 Level 1

    I'm running a ocz octane ssd on my macbook pro it works great for photoshop work. It's fast enough that it can act as your scratch drive as well as be your boot drive without any problems. Although photoshop probably shoudn't need to use your scratch disk in reality it often does use a small portion even if you have a gazillion gb of memory. I even use the ssd for current work files, although some people speculate that it will decrease the life of the drive if you do too many writes to it.  You don't need a big ssd if you have most of your storage offline, 240GB should be fine and even 120gb might be sufficient. The thing with lion is that it doesn't work with a lot of older hardware so you are safer sticking with snow leopard or confirming that the hardware you do own will run with lion, or the manufacturer will give you a workaround.

  • willowpc Level 1 Level 1

    P.S. Photoshop CS6 beta is out now as a free download from adobe labs

  • JLMedia Photography Level 1 Level 1

    Thanks, I wont upgrade to CS5 but will be to CS6, I am just installing the beta on my iMac so I can give it a go on Lion to make sure it is all fine. Just had a thought, I can install the other equipment such as printer and drobo onto my lion to make sure it is all running well so this will show me if the Mac Pro is likely to be ok then. (that makes sense in my head anyway haha)

    Thanks for all your help,


    Just to clarify, I have 18gb 800 MHZ DDR2 FB-Dimm memory installed and there is 156gb available on HD1 on a 320gb drive.

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  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9

    And 24GB seems to be the sweet spot for RAM though sometimes even more, but you need to boot 64-bit mode for one thing to get the most out of it, also 10.6.8 along with CS5.5



    And he does review the MacBook Pro v Mac Pro for CS5 - he returned his MBP due to all the issues with its SATA3 interface and poor support last year with SSDs (sounds like there were multiple revisions to the logicboard and SATA3 interface)

  • JLMedia Photography Level 1 Level 1

    Hi, OK Great, I will look at trying to get up and running with 24gb at some stage, I think it will be an awkward chage as I need to get rid of a few cards to do it but if it speeds things up a lot then it is worth the investment.

    I'll be changing to CS6 as soon as it is released.

  • Ricks Level 6 Level 6

    JLMedia Photography wrote:


    SSD for boot and for running PS will be beneficial and maybe using an SSD for the scratch disc would be beneficial.


    While it is a hot item these days to upgrade to an SSDs, it will not much improve actual Photoshop performance. This is because almost everything to do with the operating system and the application are loaded onto RAM when you boot up and launch the app. SO yeah, you get a faster boot up and launch of Photoshop. But then you get a lot less improvement during operation since accessing the data files now takes the forefront of performance.


    Yes, you gain a bit from swap file speed if you don't have enough RAM installed. You can also drag your work file over to the SSD and work off it. But that is very inconvenient.


    Your boot drive is a bit long in the tooth, so maybe a fast new hard drive to replace it would improve things a lot. A Seagate 1TB drive is good for 180 MB/sec. Pretty amazing for a single platter drive.


    Most of the time it is a better choice of performance upgrade to improve your data file access speed. That usually means a RAID for the photo data. That can give a great deal of real improvement to PS operations.


    And make sure you are booting into 64 bit kernel. That can allow more RAM to be dedicated to PS.



  • thranx Level 1 Level 1

    I shut down my mac, running Snow Leopard, for five days.  When I restarted it, it ran with beachballs on practically everything.  I tried all the usual fixes...nothing worked. ran normal speed in Safe Mode. 


    After trying numerous other fixes, I removed Zeobit's Mackeeper and started up the machine again. For the first time ever, I got a blinking globe, but after several minutes the machine rebooted properly.  Now it runs normal speed again.


    If you have MacKeeper and nothing else works to bring back your speed, try uninstalling the software and (patiently) rebooting.

  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9

    Use of SSD arrays for the old scratch+work disk, if you can invest in PCIe and SSD.


    Low seeks and latency, no longer in 4-12ms but down into less than nanosecond.


    Every time we see the word "MacKeeper" it isn't just a red flag, it is one of the worst things you can install on Mac OS.

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