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What exactly do you "earn" when selling iBooks

If my iBook is being sold on the iTunes Store, what exactly does Apple pay me?

A provision or author's fee or how is it called?


Can anybody show me a dummy sales report or similar?

Do I have to write Apple an invoice or do they send me some kind of a document?


I'd like to sell a book in the iBook store but I have to know how to get everything right in therms of accounting.

I am a "one-woman" firm in Italy (with IVA).


Thanks a lot for your help.

Posted on Mar 30, 2012 7:10 AM

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Mar 30, 2012 12:03 PM in response to Barbara Brundage

You're using a term I've used and insisted on in the past (I'm specifically trying to avoid using it in this case at the risk of misleading the OP), only to receive pushback from individuals living in the EU, that it did not apply. You can use it if you wish, but be prepared to talk it out with the OP, not me.



Let's let the OP explain their own thinking, thanks 🙂 - Forums are cryptic enuf... I'll be sure to ask if I need you to translate, tho. Feel free to reply to them if you like. I'm certain I understand the question....it's not the first time it's surfaced.

Mar 30, 2012 11:06 AM in response to K T

Thanks for your reply.

But these are the things I already knew after having read the FAQ.


But what's that sum that I get called exactly?

The guy who does my accounting says that he needs to know whether it's a provision or an author's fee or what it exactly is.


How about VAT etc.?

Do I get some sort of a credit memo for my accounting?

Mar 30, 2012 11:15 AM in response to LiviaCH

It's called 'profit'. From a sale. You're not working for anyone but yourself. Apple makes a payment of your portion of each sale directly to your, after taking out their percentage.


For your accounting, as I said, you can download and view sales reports via iTunes Connect. Apple doesn't send out any other reports or documentation.


You need to track payments made to you, from Apple, by reviewing your bank records to see each month's electronic wire transfer/deposit activity into the designated bank account.


I can't speak to VAT, sorry, I'm in the US.

Apr 1, 2012 8:36 AM in response to K T

Thanks a lot for your answers but they didn't really solve my problem 😟

The thing is that the guy who does my accounting has to figure out what exactly I am being paid for.


Barbara Brundage got it pretty much right but what she wrote doesn't cover all aspects...


It's pretty hard to explain.

I used the term "author's fee" but it could also be that it's called "royalties"... I'm not native english speaking... 😟


It seems to be a huge difference here in Italy whether you make a profit from selling your own work directly (goods in this case), from receiving a percentage (someone else sells my stuff and gives me X percent) or from receiving money because I'm the author of the book that is being sold. They somehow classify each activity different here.

Not only as far as tax are concerned but above all because if you do a certain kind of work, you're only allowed to make a certain kind of profits... (at least that's how my accountant-guy explained it to me)


So I'm trying to find out what kind of profit I exactly get from selling my iBooks trough the iTunes Store.

Since I couldn't find too much on the net about that, I hoped to find help here... 😕


Hope I've been able to explain what I mean....


(By the way... what or who is OP?)

Apr 1, 2012 9:09 AM in response to LiviaCH

I used the term "author's fee" but it could also be that it's called "royalties"... I'm not native english speaking...

Yes, the official term for this in the US is "royalties". That is what the IRS calls it on all their documents, for all that KT objects to the term. From the instructions for form 1099-misc, used to report royalty payments.



Box 2. Royalties


Enter gross royalty payments (or similar amounts) of $10 or more. Report royalties from oil, gas, or other mineral properties before reduction for severance and other taxes that may have been withheld and paid. Do not include surface royalties. They should be reported in box 1. Do not report oil or gas payments for a working interest in box 2; report payments for working interests in box 7. Do not report timber royalties made under a pay-as-cut contract; report these timber royalties on Form 1099-S, Proceeds From Real Estate Transactions.

Use box 2 to report royalty payments from intangible property such as patents, copyrights, trade names, and trademarks. Report the gross royalties (before reduction for fees, commissions, or expenses) paid by a publisher directly to an author or literary agent, unless the agent is a corporation. The literary agent (whether or not a corporation) that receives the royalty payment on behalf of the author must report the gross amount of royalty payments to the author on Form 1099-MISC whether or not the publisher reported the payment to the agent on its Form 1099-MISC.


However, I don't think that when you are the one with the itunes connect account that your relationship with apple is that of an author receiving royalties. You are the publisher in this instance. For example, my own publisher makes my books available in the ibookstore, but they pay me royalties on those copies. Apple does not pay them royalties but rather sales income. But your best bet is try again to get an official response from apple on this point.


OP is short for "original poster", in other words the person who started a thread.

Apr 1, 2012 9:14 AM in response to Barbara Brundage

>That is what the IRS calls it on all their documents, for all that KT objects to the term.


I didn't say that. Please learn to participate without side comments on what you think others say. If you want to know what I meant, start your own thread and ask. Stop commenting for the IRS and for me....second request I believe.

Apr 1, 2012 9:20 AM in response to Barbara Brundage

Thanks a lot for your answers and the information.

(I don't want you guys to get in troubles with each other....)

But your best bet is try again to get an official response from apple on this point.

So Apple doesn't answer questions here?

Well I guess then I'll try to contact them by mail.

I'll post the answer when I get one that solves the question...


But thank you two very much nevertheless.

Feb 11, 2013 11:09 AM in response to LiviaCH

I too am trying to figure this out. Based on the User Agreement, sales of of your books are direct sales of goods to an end user. Apple takes a commission on these sales. They are therefore not required to, and will not send you a 1099.


However, this leaves the questions for tax purposes:


-does one list these sales as Royalties, or one can't because it is simply the sale of goods? (I suppose if you are the author and publisher, Apple pays you as the publisher for the "goods," and then you forward on "royalties" to yourself as the author!)


-if one wishes to list the commissions paid to (automatically taken by) Apple on one's tax forms and gain the tax benefits, do they need to send Apple a 1099? I highly doubt Apple will provide you with a W9 or whatever a corp. would provide, so can this even be considered? Or does the author simply loose out on the tax benefits of paying a commission to Apple?

What exactly do you "earn" when selling iBooks

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