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Q: How do I create an iCloud account on my PC?

I have downloaded iCloud to my PC, how do I create an iCloud account?   I have tried to use my apple ID that I have for iTunes but it says it's a valid apple ID but can't be used with iCloud, and again no option to create an account.  Any suggestions?  Thanks!    

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Posted on Mar 30, 2012 7:58 PM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 14, 2014 4:15 AM in response to Alphaman.
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    Aug 14, 2014 4:15 AM in response to Alphaman.

    Alphaman. wrote:

     

    For those wondering why a non-Apple user would want an iCloud account:

     

    1. To access Calendar services. Calendar on iCloud is available as a iCal service and a web service, allowing for many devices to access your calendar.*
    2. Mail is a standard IMAP based service and also accessible via a web interface.
    3. Reminders are standard iCal services and accessible via the web.
    4. Contacts are accessible via CardDav and web.
    5. Outlook no longer connects to Google as Google has deprecated their old connector. iCloud Control Panel is the only free method for integrating Outlook** directly with the push-enabled iCal, Mail, Tasks, and Contacts.
    6. Photos can be shared from the iCloud Pictures folder synchronized via iCloud Control Panel.
    7. Bookmarks can be shared between Firefox, IE, and Chrome.
    8. And to top it off, this is the only way non-Apple users can access the iWork suite.

     

    All of the above services, including the web-based services, come with no ads cluttering up the user interface or reading your emails to create a master profile of your reading and thought habits to sell to third party vendors.

     

    Why would a non-Apple user not want to use iCloud?

     

     

    * Google egregiously restricts access to iCloud Calendar services, claiming that they can't crawl the service due to Apple's robots.txt. This is a lie (an iCal client is not a robot and does not "crawl" an iCal server and should never even request the robots.txt file), and is yet another way that Google tries to force you into their ecosystem by not allowing connections to other standards based services (e.g., Outlook connector killed, IMAP standard bastardized, iCal marginalized). This is relatively easily circumvented by using an iCal proxy; search for yourselves, as many are doing it with a few lines of PHP or Perl.

     

    ** Microsoft engineering has repeatedly integrated iCal support into Outlook during the beta phase of their development. When it comes time to go RTM on the product, management has repeatedly made engineering pull out the iCal support, so that Outlook will only fully integrate with Exchange servers. This has happened with every release since Office 2003, at least that I am personally aware of.

    iCal is an app, not a standard, and it has been replaced by Calendar, the format they both use is .ics.

     

    To use Google as a client for iCloud calendars you need this: iCloud Calendar Proxy,

     

    Outlook has always been 'marginal' with services other than Exchange, the Mac version does not support anything other than Exchange. I assume this is a commercial rather than technical decision.

  • by Alphaman.,

    Alphaman. Alphaman. Aug 16, 2014 8:08 AM in response to Csound1
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    Aug 16, 2014 8:08 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

    iCal is an app, not a standard, and it has been replaced by Calendar, the format they both use is .ics.

     

    Oh, I'm so sorry to have to embarrass you in public like this, but you should know a little more about what you're talking about before posting on the Internet.

     

    iCal is indeed a standard. It just happens to be named after the first program to implement that standard, Apple's iCal. See IETF RFC 2445 and 5545. These are real, open standards, by a standards body — the Internet Engineering Task Force — not just "industry standards", like Google or Exchange or Outlook. This is why so many mail clients and servers use iCal for data exchange, especially now on top of CalDAV (another open, not industry, standard.)

     

    To use Google as a client for iCloud calendars you need this: iCloud Calendar Proxy

     

    This is the type of proxy I referenced in my previous post. You can use a service like this, or run your own. Thank you for sharing your search-foo.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 16, 2014 9:28 AM in response to Alphaman.
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    Aug 16, 2014 9:28 AM in response to Alphaman.

    I'm not even slightly embarrassed by your error thanks.

     

     

    iCalendar

     

    Not to be confused with the Apple iCal.

    iCalendar is a computer file format which allows Internet users to send meeting requests and tasks to other Internet users, via email, or sharing files with an extension of .ics. Recipients of the iCalendar data file (with supporting software, such as an email client or calendar application) can respond to the sender easily or counter-propose another meeting date/time.[1]

     

     

    iCal

     

     

    Calendar, previously known as iCal before the release of OS X Mountain Lion, is a personal calendar application made by Apple Inc. that runs on both the OS X desktop operating system and iOS mobile operating system, with online integration using iCloud.

    iCal was the first calendar application for OS X to offer support for multiple calendars and the ability to intermittently publish/subscribe to calendars on WebDAV servers.

    Originally released as a free download for Mac OS X v10.2 on September 10, 2002, it was bundled with the operating system as iCal 1.5 with the release of Mac OS X v10.3. Version 2 of iCal was released as part of Mac OS X v10.4, Version 3 as part of Mac OS X v10.5, Version 4 as part of Mac OS X v10.6, Version 5 as part of Mac OS X v10.7, and Version 6 as part of OS X v10.8.

    Apple licensed the iCal name from Brown Bear Software, who have used it for their iCal application since 1997.[1] With the release of OS X v10.8 in July 2012, iCal is called Calendar, similar to the iOS version.

     

    You have a nice day now.

  • by Alphaman.,

    Alphaman. Alphaman. Aug 16, 2014 10:41 AM in response to Csound1
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    Aug 16, 2014 10:41 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    I'm not even slightly embarrassed by your error thanks.

     

     

     

    Ah, spoken like someone who doesn't know what an IETF RFC i And the use of additional irrelevant quotes just goes to support the old adage, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with b***s***."

     

    Now, can we get back on the topic? I answered a question: why people would want to use iCloud even without an Apple device. As others have noted in this thread in response to your trolling, "Do you have anything constructive to offer?"

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 16, 2014 10:45 AM in response to Alphaman.
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    Aug 16, 2014 10:45 AM in response to Alphaman.

    You are entitled to your own beliefs.

     

    Good luck with your question.

  • by Orphalese,

    Orphalese Orphalese Oct 5, 2014 3:14 AM in response to lpal1
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    Oct 5, 2014 3:14 AM in response to lpal1

    Some friends and family have Apple products and they keep inviting me to join photo streams. I read that I could subscribe to these photo streams on a PC if I installed iCloud for Windows. I did this and the only thing stopping me from seeing their photos is that I don't have an iCloud account. Oh well.

  • by iRoswell,

    iRoswell iRoswell Jun 1, 2015 5:11 PM in response to Orphalese
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    Jun 1, 2015 5:11 PM in response to Orphalese

    FYI, just tell your family members to set the photo stream to public and send you the link to that. It can be found just below the invite button in the photo stream.

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