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HT5055 After updating to java SE 6 1.6.0_31 (java update 2012-002 for lIon), FF java plugin still shows v14.1.0

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rbenoit Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Apr 6, 2012 12:29 PM



After applying the java update 2012-002 for Lion via SU, The FF plugin doesn't appear to be updating... it is still using v14.1.0 from 6/14/11.  I tried to download the Lion java 2012-002 update directly via Apple Software Downloads, but the Lion java update labeled "2012-002" is actually the Lion update 2012-001 update, not the 002 update.  The Java JVM itself did indeed update on the system to 1.6.0_31-b04-414 (via SU), but the FF 11 plugin didn't.  When I check the plugin on the mozilla web site (using FF's check plugin's update link), the plugin is indeed listed as being "out of date".   When I enable the plugin and test java at the java test web site, java does indeed work and shows the latest JVM running.... so I'm not worried about the JVM, but just the FF plugin.   There doesn't seem to be a way to delete the java plugin from FF (hoping that the JVM would install a new plugin when I use a web site that utilizes java).  Disabling the plugin defeats enabling the JVM.  So the question is, are there potential security issues with the "old" java plugin, and if so, how do I update the plugin?   I have restarted my laptop and restarted FF numerous times, but the "old" plugin remains.... and since I can't re-download the 2012-002 update from Apple, I can't try to re-install the 002 update.


Thx in advance!  -Ron

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.3), Mid-2010 Model (6,1)
  • Allan Clark Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Hi Ron.


    I think you're finding that Apple has released an update to Java, but not to the Firefox Plugin that finds Java and brings it online for the Firefox application.


    You may notice that the Firefox plugin is version 14.1.0, which also doesn't match the previous Java release; instead, it's just the version of the plugin.  This plugin has the job of finding the Java JVM on the system and bringing it online for the Firefox application to use.  The JVM it finds may be in one of a few places it looks based on how distributors will move around their releases.


    You said the plugin points to:



    I have this same softlink in /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin even though I don't use Firefox.


    /System/Library/Java/Support/CoreDeploy.bundle/Contents/ should be the directory updated by the Java Update (which seems logical given the pathname -- /System/Library/Java -- not something like /System/Library/Firefox/Java/).


    The plugin itself may not need to be updated if it finds the newer Java release as well as it found the old one, perhaps by following that softlink from /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ which still points to the same place, but didn't need to be updated.


    Indeed, avoiding a lock-step update requirement allows this sort of faster response on a JVM update.  As well, I believe the Firefox plugin will soon also redundantly check for Java releases it deems "bad" and alert you, the user, to look for an update.


    ... but to make a long story short, the FF version is still v14.1.0 because you didn't update that, just the Java that the plugin eventually finds and uses.

  • dotv Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Is anything better with a iMAC - enjoyed - but right now I don't even see Java in Applications - - but when I search I find it - and the little gold box shows it can't download without a previous file - which shows it is in - I hope I didn't flub it up  - especially when removing cache as they told me to do -


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