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Red and green square dots?

I only have problems with randomly appearing red or green squares when I launch iPhoto and occasionally when watching video. A reboot usually fixes it until I launch iPhoto again. Anyone else see this happening?

iMac (27-inch Mid 2010), iOS 5.1

Posted on Apr 10, 2012 3:39 PM

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Feb 8, 2015 7:00 AM in response to TerrellPDX

Just wanted to give one more thumbs up to the baking solution. I had green and red squares appear randomly on my screen when the computer was cold. I read the 33 pages of comments here thankfully before taking my way-out-of-warranty 2010 27' iMac to the apple store. I pulled out the graphics card (ATI Radeon HD 5750 1024 MB), baked it at 385F for 7 minutes, applied new thermal compound on the head sink, popped it back in, went ahead and upgraded HDD to SSD while I was in there 🙂, put it back together, and it works beautifully. Not a colored square in sight, cold or hot. Thanks to those who suggested the idea.


As a side note, before I baked the card, I verified that the cold was the problem by downloading a program called NovaBench. This program bench tests several aspects of the computer including the GPU. Stressing these components warms them up, and indeed after starting up a cold mac (with colored squares) and running the test a few times, the artifacts stopped. Maybe that would be an acceptable interim solution for some. I just baked mine because I wanted to go in there for the SSD upgrade anyway.

Feb 26, 2015 6:34 AM in response to TheDoctorG

I had the same problem. First "click-select-drag", after some iterations - freeze 4ever.


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Downgraded to Mavericks, and had the same problem (squares) twice, but disappeared after 'click-dragging', and no freezes.

Also i'm trying to understand the reason of the problem.

And thats what i noticed:

- I always have this problem on 'cold' iMac - 5 minutes after it starts;

- All the squares appear over background (not over program/browser windows);

- All the squares disappear after click-dragging, and do not appear when iMac is 'warm' (after 5 minutes);

- Any video stress-tests. benchmarks - the system goes slow, but NO squares.

- Never seen dots&squares on parallels Windows7 mode.


Is it just some kind of phantasmagoria ? 🙂

Feb 26, 2015 6:38 AM in response to UFFOru

No this is a problem with a defect in the graphics card. All the baking you see mentioned above in the thread effectively re-flows the solder. The hypothesis is that the solder has developed miniature breaks that are agitated by contraction when cold. I can say with 100% certainty that everything I did up until baking my card did not work. It was my last ditch effort, and was completely successful. It's been a couple months now and I have not seen a single artifact, and have not had a single freeze up. If you have access to a heat gun you can get the same results with targeted heat.

Mar 3, 2015 4:23 AM in response to TerrellPDX

I have the same issue with the large dots. It only happens when I have a video selected in the finder. When I have a .MOV, .MP4, etc. selected in the finder, both of my displays are covered with these large dots. If I click away from the video file, the dots will remain until the display refreshes by me clicking on the application window beneath the dots, etc. If I select the video file again, the dots all come back. I haven't seen a solution in this thread (I've read a lot of the posts, but not all). I have a 2010 iMac, 27 inch, 2.8 GHz Core i5 running 10.7.5. Just started happening in the past few months. I've seen a few posts about uninstalling Chrome to fix it. Does that work? And if so, why? And doesn't seem like a long term solution since I need to test in chrome.

Mar 11, 2015 11:24 AM in response to JamiRae

I've had a bad time with the red and green blocks for a while.

The last two days where a **** with constant crashes and reboots.

Desperate to get the problem solved I baked my Ati Radeon 5870

What a ridiculous idea, really!


It has been an hour after the baking and the squares have not appeared yet.


So my baking method is the same as the others; 200 degree Celsius, preheat oven, then exactly 7 minutes in the oven with all the plastic parts facing down. Did not repaste the heat sink or whatever. I let it cool for a while and reinstalled it in the MacPro 2009


I hope I will not have to post in this discussion all in tears... fingers crossed.



PS do they have ovens behind the genius bar?

Mar 16, 2015 8:22 AM in response to TheDoctorG

You're correct TheDoctorG. I am now able to offer yet another confirmation that baking does resolve the issue. Thanks to Richlove and all the others for taking the time to post their experiences and results.


For those of your who think that being insistent, polite or whatever to get your cards replaced are just spinning your wheels unfortunately. As others have repeatedly pointed out, those replacement cards have the same issue and will ultimately show up again with the "new" cards which in reality have been sitting in a warehouse somewhere for 3, 4 or 5 years.


I am a Mac guy now, and have been since 2003. Prior to that, I built my own PC's and I am an IT Network administrator by trade. I don't work on Mac's in a business environment, so I didn't have the suction cups and to be completely honest, I had never even seen the inside of my own 2010 27" iMac until yesterday. Not sure why, but I was actually nervous to do this, and I put it off and stayed on Mavericks as I too had horrible results trying to upgrade to Yosemite. My iMac works great in every other respect, and I felt I was forced in to going ahead with the bake simply because I wasn't going to waste money on a repair that I knew wouldn't ultimately fix it, I couldn't sell it in good conscience, and I couldn't throw it away and buy a new one knowing that the problem was actually so minor.


I ordered the cups from iFixIt, and went ahead and grabbed a new set of the tools while I was there. I very cautiously took my iMac apart following the instructions posted in this thread previously. Baked at 400 for just over 6 and a half minutes (oven was preheated). Once the card had fully cooled, I applied fresh heat sink compound and put it back together. It struck me on the re-assembly that it really isn't all that different from taking apart any computer, but for some reason, the Mac's just had this mysticism in my mind which made me nervous. I cannot explain why that was the case, it just was. Booted up, no issues! Upgraded to Yosemite, no issues. Ran for 24 hours, still no issues, with power saving back on and using it as I normally would for both low stress and high stress activities (like games).


I cannot recommend this for anyone who is not VERY comfortable with working inside a computer. For those folks, I know you're frustrated, but rather than going to Apple, who unless they install ovens at the Genius Bar is actually unable to permanently resolve the problem. Find a local computer store who will work on Macs. Show them this thread and ask if they are willing to do the work. A lot of those folks have probably heard of the baking method as it's not a new procedure for fixing this kind of issue with circuit boards. Even if they won't do the bake at the local store, they may be willing to remove your card and reinstall after you do the bake yourself.

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