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Red and green square dots?

I only have problems with randomly appearing red or green squares when I launch iPhoto and occasionally when watching video. A reboot usually fixes it until I launch iPhoto again. Anyone else see this happening?

iMac (27-inch Mid 2010), iOS 5.1

Posted on Apr 10, 2012 3:39 PM

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Nov 11, 2015 1:30 PM in response to BillyHoush

As do I, Billy!


Successfully "baked" my card, but the long-term collateral stress on my hard drive caused that to fail: Replacing with 4Tb Seagate Enterprise, but not at all certain I can recover the 1Tb of data onboard....


Seems like there are many more here with mid-2010 27" iMacs, than there are with 2011's... and yet, Apple's done nothing for us!

Nov 28, 2015 5:06 AM in response to Citiboy

I would just like to add another vote for baking the video card.


My story: our late-2009 iMac, around this time last year developed the problems described in this thread. What pointed me towards the graphics subsystem was the fact that when the problem manifested itself (weird graphics artifacts and in the end a frozen screen), the computer hadn't actually crashed; it was still reachable over the network, and I could in fact simply log in with ssh and reboot that way. Also, booting and quickly turning off the screen allowed it to run perfectly stable. So, I spent some time finding a replacement card, put that in, and for around 6 months all was once again well - until the problem reappeared of course.


By that time, I had found this thread, and after reading it, it seemed to me that the only solution that worked consistently was baking the card. Fortunately I had kept the old card, so I put that in the oven for 10 minutes at 205 ºC to reflow it. It even smelled nice - although that may have been the banana bread that was in the oven just before. I have just put it back in the iMac, it restarted fine right away, and I am now typing this on it. Before I removed it, this card would hardly allow the system to boot, so that's progress at least, and so far it is working perfectly.


It appears to me that the underlying problem is in the production process of these graphics cards. Apple, while being helpful enough I suppose, are not able to really solve the problem as all they do, and all they realistically can do, is find the defective part and replace it - not really a permanent solution when any replacement card is likely to develop the same issues.


Fortunately baking the card appears to solve the problem - the 27" iMacs really are very nice computers and I would hate to be left with a 27" headless machine because of a duff graphics card.


What's left now is to bake the now faulty replacement card as well, it's a Radeon HD 5750 with 1GB rather than the 4850 with 512MB the iMac originally came with, so it would be a shame not to use it. I'll post back with the result.

Dec 2, 2015 2:05 AM in response to urdvurk

Follow-up: I have now baked the second card and that now works again too. Before, while it was able to boot into safe mode, it had constant artifacts on the screen and was getting worse over time. After, everything appears to be fine.


So, to summarize:


- original HD 4850 graphics card develops problem, deteriorating until the system was not able to boot anymore, replaced with HD 5750;

- six months in, replacement card develops problem as well;

- original card baked, all symptoms gone;

- second card baked, all symptoms gone.


I'll post back if either card goes bad again, but for now I'll consider my problem resolved. So: -1 vote for simple replacement and +2 for baking.

Dec 14, 2015 11:43 AM in response to TerrellPDX

After 6 years of running without a single problem once (hardware that is) it's time for me I guess to get the same problems found in this topic. I've replaced the DVD drive once for a SSD and replaced the original harddrive for a larger one. So the screwing and stuff is not the biggest issue here.


I'm the owner of a late 2009 27" iMac with i7. And the problem now is 5 vertical yellow lines while in safe mode and from boot, and other screens can give me a white background and small yellow blocks all over the display.


I still want to contact apple support to ask them about the knowledge of this problem and what possible fixes are, but it seems that only baking is on of the better options. Maybe I'll try that and if it works again I'm thinking about selling it and save money to buy a new one or maybe even build a hackintosh instead! There are some positives avout it, especially when it cames to be able to repair faults! And offcourse prices 🙂


I'll be back in a few days with an update on my phonecall.


I also contacted someone who wants to do it for me but asks 100 euro's, a bit too much if you ask me. Offcourse it's reasonable for the labor, but it's nothing I can't do myself. He also said that reflowing is an option that can work for 1 day or maybe 3 years. Well, if I'm selling it I hope it will do 3 years before problems appear 😝

Dec 31, 2015 4:37 AM in response to TerrellPDX

Well, I called the Apple Store and they couldn't help me with the callback. They said I had to call a repaircenter and let it repair. Called them, they said I needed to consider a repair that could be at least 600 euros.. I guess not 🙂


So I just finished my backing, It's cooling down at the moment and I'll put it back in when possible. And then let's see what happens 🙂

Jan 10, 2016 4:54 PM in response to orangex

I'm going to attempt the bake next weekend because with the winter the crashes have become unbearable. Thanks to all who have posted their success. I have yet to open up my mid-2010 27" iMac. I hope I don't break anything but I have disassembled and reassembled my 2006 Macbook many times (which still runs beautifully to this day with a SSD).


I'll report with my results.

Feb 18, 2016 10:30 AM in response to TerrellPDX

You are all right and wrong.


You are all lucky I will waste some time to settle this.


None of you know how things work, this is why the thread is hundreds of posts long, for a Thermal Failure Issue.


The graphics cards are failing due to inadequate cooling. This is not due to Radeon or AMDs designs it is the heatsink that is directly responsible.


Heat Sink.


CPU/GPU overheat why? Because of inadequate airflow, or inadequate heat sink capability. Processors are responsible for rendering that image. That's why the pixelation and artifacts are related to mouse movement and input as well as images and programs. Its rendering ERRORS related to thermal failure and they stack up in memory until it eats the Buffer and freezes the Processor. See? Simple.


We know this because we are Old. We built machines with ISA, IDE, and Dipswitches using 8086 intel CPUs in 1989. Or around there. Whatever.


But I did read ALL your posts, for hours, because I really do care. Re-flowing a GPU. Just like fixing an Xbox or a HP laptop GPU on the MoBo is the same thing as described elsewhere here. Dude its not the lead free solder. Calm down.


Started you all thinking though, drinking that AppleJuice and questioning the knowitall BS Geniuses. Breathtaking arrogance to call them this. I know about breathtaking arrogance.


Apple engineered this failure and there are ONLY TWO reasons why this happened. Either the Heatsink is inadequate or the GPUs operating parameters are incorrect. Apple is totally liable for this, completely, as the system integrator and retailer of the complete system they have no right to fall back on AMD at the end users expense. Apple should have recalled these units but there was NO economically feasible way to get out from under a HUGE failure with no easy fix. Those cards are hard to find eh? That's why redesigning the heatsink and recalling the PC would have been a disaster. Replacing that GPU with one that could function within the heatsinks ability to cool it would have fixed it.

Thermal paste and other mods MAY work after reflow. Fancontrol utilities which can raise the GPU fan will also help. Presumably.


Blame Apple. They deserve it and they are to blame. They make incredible things, but they F-up too but unlike us they will never take responsibility unless forced by law.

Mar 9, 2016 4:37 AM in response to TerrellPDX

Hello everyone,

I'm having the same green/purple dots issue for several days now. The screen eventually turned to black or the iMac was not responsive anymore. I tried everything, from AHT, PRAM zapping, and so on. Nothing helped.
Until I stumbled upon these 4 command lines this morning. No more dots, my machine seems to be new again.

Hope it will last.


Here's the process.

1. Startup your Mac in single user mode, holding the command-S keys.

2. After the loading is done, type /sbin/mount -wu /

3. Wait till the previous command is finished and type /bin/chmod 1775 /

4. Type /bin/sync

5. Type exit


Credit : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKOX72xNmbo


Hope this helps.

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