3 Replies Latest reply: Apr 15, 2012 7:25 AM by Linc Davis
ToadstoolFilms Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I’ve been having a few problems with my Mac Pro 1,1 for a while now.  The graphics card appeared to be the cause of the last issue (lines of garbled pixels appearing across the screen), the screen going to black once or twice and not letting me do anything other than a hard reset.

 

Side note: not long after I bought the machine in 2006 I remember it wouldn’t run The Sims 3 without it having major crashing issues (black screen but sound still playing underneath).

 

I changed my graphics card about a month ago to the ATI Radeon 5770.  Installation was fine and everything seemed to work ok (although, the second DVI connection doesn’t work with either the Apple Cinema HD display, or my HD monitor, so I have one plugged in to DVI 1 and the other in to the mini display port).  The other problem with this is that (and this is the only game I have to test it on) is that GTA San Andreas still freezes forcing me in to a hard reset situation.  But other video intensive apps (Final Cut Pro for example) works fine.

 

I used the snow leopard disk to do a disk repair but that found no issues.  I repaired the disk permissions as well.  This appeared to fix nothing.

 

I few other issues I’ve had recently:

 

  • The Finder crashes.
  • The computer hangs on a restart / shut down.
  • USB ports don’t always work on system start.  I have to unplug the mouse and/or the keyboard and plug them back in again to get them to work.  Some of these are on the back of the tower and others are in the back of the monitor.
  • Disk drive can’t read burned discs.
  • When ejecting optical disks the icon will either go semi-transparent and then stay that way (this is usually the case, especially after the disc has been in use).
  • Other times when I try and eject the disc the disc unmounts, but the tray doesn’t open.  Then the disc and the drive itself goes missing from disk utility and can’t be remounted without a hard reset.

 

The last issue that moved me in to doing a fresh install was Final Cut not working at all.  I’ve since reinstalled but the same problems persist - the optical drive not ejecting (but disappearing from the system leaving me unable to do anything other than a hard reset to get it back).  This causes obvious problems when I’m installing multi-disk systems.

 

After I restarted, before I did anything else with it, I asked it to run system update which it did and found updates.  I downloaded and installed these and then it restarted.  It shut down fine, and appeared to start up fine.  But then the Finder crashed and while the mouse cursor moved around, the keyboard wouldn’t input any commands and I couldn’t actually click on anything - another hard reset.

 

I’m starting to get to the end of my tether with my “superior” mac experience.  I know it’s easy to suggest it must be the graphics card causing this, but some of these issues have happened in the past, just not as frequent as now, so I’m hoping there are some ideas that go above the “change graphics card” idea.  Of course, I am open to this being the cause.

 

I’ve ran Onyx & Rember and both have been successful.

 

Any ideas you wonderful lot?

 

While I imagine the obvious answer is "take it to a repair centre" this isn't an easy option where I live as all official Apple stores (i.e. not premium resellers) are quite a distance.

 

Stats are below:

 

Model Name:          Mac Pro

  Model Identifier:          MacPro1,1

  Processor Name:          Dual-Core Intel Xeon

  Processor Speed:          2.66 GHz

  Number Of Processors:          2

  Total Number Of Cores:          4

  L2 Cache (per processor):          4 MB

  Memory:          6 GB

  Bus Speed:          1.33 GHz

  Boot ROM Version:          MP11.005C.B08

  SMC Version (system):          1.7f10

  Serial Number (system):          CK******UPZ

 

 

 

 

ATI Radeon HD 5770:

 

  Chipset Model:          ATI Radeon HD 5770

  Type:          GPU

  Bus:          PCIe

  Slot:          Slot-1

  PCIe Lane Width:          x16

  VRAM (Total):          1024 MB

  Vendor:          ATI (0x1002)

  Device ID:          0x68b8

  Revision ID:          0x0000

  ROM Revision:          113-C0160C-155

  EFI Driver Version:          01.00.436

  Displays:

HP ZR2440w:

  Resolution:          1920 x 1200

  Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

  Display Serial Number:          CNT13400TQ 

  Mirror:          Off

  Online:          Yes

  Rotation:          Supported

Cinema HD:

  Resolution:          1920 x 1200

  Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

  Display Serial Number:          2A6431YTUG0

  Main Display:          Yes

  Mirror:          Off

  Online:          Yes

  Rotation:          Supported

Display Connector:

  Status:          No Display Connected

 

 

Memory Slots:

 

  ECC:          Enabled

 

DIMM Riser A/DIMM 1:

 

  Size:          2 GB

  Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

  Speed:          667 MHz

  Status:          OK

  Manufacturer:          0x802C

  Part Number:          0x3138484632353637324A4436363745314434

  Serial Number:          0xDF3E7A28

 

DIMM Riser A/DIMM 2:

 

  Size:          2 GB

  Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

  Speed:          667 MHz

  Status:          OK

  Manufacturer:          0x802C

  Part Number:          0x3138484632353637324A4436363745314434

  Serial Number:          0xDF3E7A34

 

DIMM Riser B/DIMM 1:

 

  Size:          512 MB

  Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

  Speed:          667 MHz

  Status:          OK

  Manufacturer:          0x80AD

  Part Number:          0x48594D5035363441373242503844322D5935

  Serial Number:          0x50260008

 

DIMM Riser B/DIMM 2:

 

  Size:          512 MB

  Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

  Speed:          667 MHz

  Status:          OK

  Manufacturer:          0x80AD

  Part Number:          0x48594D5035363441373242503844322D5935

  Serial Number:          0x50260005

 

DIMM Riser A/DIMM 3:

 

  Size:          512 MB

  Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

  Speed:          667 MHz

  Status:          OK

  Manufacturer:          0x80AD

  Part Number:          0x48594D5035363441373242503844322D5935

  Serial Number:          0x50260008

 

DIMM Riser A/DIMM 4:

 

  Size:          512 MB

  Type:          DDR2 FB-DIMM

  Speed:          667 MHz

  Status:          OK

  Manufacturer:          0x80AD

  Part Number:          0x48594D5035363441373242503844322D5935

  Serial Number:          0x50262006

 

DIMM Riser B/DIMM 3:

 

  Size:          Empty

  Type:          Empty

  Speed:          Empty

  Status:          Empty

  Manufacturer:          Empty

  Part Number:          Empty

  Serial Number:          Empty

 

DIMM Riser B/DIMM 4:

 

  Size:          Empty

  Type:          Empty

  Speed:          Empty

  Status:          Empty

  Manufacturer:          Empty

  Part Number:          Empty

  Serial Number:          Empty

 

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Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • 1. Re: Mac Pro 1,1 Help Needed
    Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (117,820 points)

    Please read this whole message before doing anything.

     

    This procedure is a test, not a solution. Don’t be disappointed when you find that nothing has changed after you complete it.

     

    Step 1

     

    The purpose of this step is to determine whether the problem is localized to your user account.

     

    Enable guest logins and log in as Guest. For instructions, launch the System Preferences application, select Help from the menu bar, and enter “Set up a guest account” (without the quotes) in the search box.

     

    While logged in as Guest, you won’t have access to any of your personal files or settings. Applications will behave as if you were running them for the first time. Don’t be alarmed by this; it’s normal. If you need any passwords or other personal data in order to complete the test, memorize, print, or write them down before you begin.

     

    Test while logged in as Guest. Same problem(s)?

     

    After testing, log out of the guest account and, in your own account, disable it if you wish. Any files you created in the guest account will be deleted automatically when you log out of it.

     

    Note: If you’ve activated “Find My Mac” or FileVault in Mac OS X 10.7 or later, then you can’t enable the Guest account. Create a new account in which to test, and delete it, including its home folder, after testing.

     

    Step 2

     

    The purpose of this step is to determine whether the problem is caused by third-party system modifications that load automatically at startup or login.

     

    Disconnect all wired peripherals except those needed for the test, and remove all aftermarket expansion cards. Boot in safe mode and log in to the account with the problem. The instructions provided by Apple are as follows:

     

    • Be sure your Mac is shut down.
    • Press the power button.
    • Immediately after you hear the startup tone, hold the Shift key. The Shift key should be held as soon as possible after the startup tone, but not before the tone.
    • Release the Shift key when you see the gray Apple icon and the progress indicator (looks like a spinning gear).

     

    Safe mode is much slower to boot and run than normal, and some things won’t work at all, including wireless networking on certain Macs.

     

    The login screen appears even if you usually log in automatically. You must know your login password in order to log in. If you’ve forgotten the password, you will need to reset it before you begin.

     

    Test while in safe mode. Same problem(s)?

     

    After testing, reboot as usual (i.e., not in safe mode) and verify that you still have the problem. Post the results of steps 1 and 2.

  • 2. Re: Mac Pro 1,1 Help Needed
    ToadstoolFilms Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for the reply, this is what I discovered:

     

    I went through option 1 first.  I logged in to a guest account and ejected the disc.  I let it go back in on it’s own (by leaving it for a while) and the disk didn’t mount on the system, nor could the disk utility see the disk drive.

     

    I couldn’t get a game playing (as it’s tied to my user account through the app store), nor could I get Finder to freeze as it appears to be a different thing every time.

     

    I restarted my machine and upon restart it asked me to unplug and replug my USB mouse.  Unplugging it from the keyboard and putting it back in again resolved this issue.

     

    I then tried ejecting the optical disk and it worked, then manually put it back in (using the eject key on the keyboard) and it mounted fine.  I then logged out of this account and back in to my guest account (without a restart or a shutdown).  This time, the disk wouldn’t appear on the desktop, and no manner of trying to get it to eject worked - again, the drive was missing from disk utility).  I then logged back in to the main user account and the disk still wasn’t there.

     

    After this, I tried ejecting the USB pen drive, the three internal drives (the fourth being the system drive) and the firewire drive - none of these would eject, they went translucent, but that was it.  I tried to shut down and it hung on the desktop, then after a while the dock and title bar disappeared but that was it.  I had to hard reset.

     

    2:

     

    I removed all after market RAM and all peripherals and what not save for what I needed for this test and then booted in to safe mode.

     

    First thing I tried was to eject an internal had drive and that worked fine.  Ejected the optical disk and manually put it back in and that worked fine.  Then I let it do it on it’s own.  When the disk went in the mac responded like it was trying to read something (whirring and what not) but nothing mounted, and again disk utility didn’t recognise the drive.  However, DU did see the internal hard drive I had ejected.

     

    Safari hung on a simple blog page.

     

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    I then put it back in to regular mode (to write this post) and while loading Pages the mac froze, and the fans started spinning at what sounded like the maximum RPM.  On restart it couldn’t detect the keyboard (it started searching for a bluetooth one), however the mouse (which is plugged in to the keyboard) worked fine.

     

    Hope this helps lead us to some answers.

  • 3. Re: Mac Pro 1,1 Help Needed
    Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (117,820 points)

    It sounds to me like you have a hardware fault. I can't be more specific.