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Can you force ARD to ask permission before control/observing *AND* still be able to push updates/patches?

Is there a way to force ARD to ask permission before observing/controling a computer AND still be able to push updates/patches to the computer?

I know we can't be the only ones who have this dilemma so I'm hoping someone has a solution.

ARD version 3.

OS 10.6.8 (ARD machine) and 10.6-10.7 client Macs


Each remotely monitored computer has an admin account that ARD uses to inventory and update the machines. Let's call it ADMIN. Of course each computer also has a local (non-admin) account let's call USER.


When USER is logged in, we'd like ARD to always ask permission before observing and/or controlling the computer. We found we can replicate this by removing the ADMIN login and password from the info tab of the computer in question as well as turning on the 'Any guest may request permission' setting. Unfortunately we found this also removes the ability of ARD to start a chat session with the computer - even with the chat option checked on in ARD settings (system preferences). To push updates/patches we have to put the ADMIN account information back into computer info tab.


Basically it boils down to giving the end user the privacy they would like (not being viewed without warning) while they're logged in vs. allowing the IT department to update the computers when necessary.


With the ADMIN login and password entered into the computer's info tab we're able to observe/control without warning. We changed the client settings for that computer via ARD to always request permission but this didn't work while the ADMIN login and password were still entered in the info tab. Once we removed the information we were prompted to ask permission but that's because we were essentially an unknown guest.


It appears to be an either/or situation right now. Either you give the user privacy and always ask permission or you give the IT department the rights to observe a machine and push updates. Because once we put the ADMIN information back into the info tab, we can observe without permission again.


When USER is logged in, always ask permission to control/observe. But still be able to push updates. If ADMIN is logged in or no one is logged in, don't ask to control/observe.


Has anyone found a workable solution for this question?

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Posted on Apr 17, 2012 12:50 PM

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Apr 18, 2012 6:47 AM in response to Stephanie Dravk

To the best of my knowledge, no, that's not possible. You need admin permissions to be able to push packages and do the other functions, and admins get access without any ability to have the user have to grant permissions. Only with guest users does the user get the ability to grant access permission. ,If having that sort of control is a requirement, then ARD may not be a workable solution for you, at least as the sole solution. You could perhaps use a combination solution, of ARD for package distrubution and other functions and some other solution such as LogMeIn that has access control from the client side for observe and control functions, turning off the Observe/Control capabilities for ARD on the clients.


Regards.

Aug 2, 2012 4:11 PM in response to varjak paw

You can take a look at this website and it will give you the command to run that will control the Observe and Control options for the access mode.


http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2370


The command is:

$

sudo /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resources/kickstart -configure -users "THIS IS WHERE YOU PUT THE USERS YOU WANT TO HAVE ACCESS" -access -on -privs -ControlObserve -ObserveOnly -TextMessages

Aug 2, 2012 6:54 PM in response to Stephanie Dravk

Have you considered a trust based solution? You could just call, email, chat a request to view their screen. And promise users your only going to connect to their computers with their permistion. Beside the ARD menu on the client shows when some one is connected; and all connections are logged, and the user can always look at the history to see who's conencted and when.


The reason I say this is being in support is very trust based relationship. If you can push out updates, then your always going to have the ablity to remotely connect to the computer without the users software based authorizing.

Jul 6, 2014 8:09 PM in response to TeenTitan

I think this is a great point. My concern is around not being able to automatically connect to say the CEO's computer. Trust is great and we try to build that with our clients but it feels like a big ask when you are talking about heads of companies etc. If you are managing these machines though, with a local admin account and ARD then you can only rely on trust to control access. It's a tough question. ARD is such a great time saving tool in the right situation and one's workflow might have to dramatically change without it.

Can you force ARD to ask permission before control/observing *AND* still be able to push updates/patches?

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