Why is Aruba not in the countries list?

There are a considerable number of iPad users in Aruba. While there is an iStore here, Aruba is not listed in the countries list. Ergo my credit card information does not coincide with my bank information. Cannot make purchases online.

Any suggestions??

Rodarends

iPad 2, Other OS

Posted on Apr 18, 2012 11:30 AM

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Apr 18, 2012 6:43 PM in response to Rodarends

Rodarends wrote:


Aruba is NOT Netherlands. Aruba is an independent nation within the Netherlands Kingdom with it's own Government elected by it's own residents every four years.

I'm not trying to offend you or start an arguement. I just want to understand this. How can Aruba be "independent" while at the same time "within the Netherlands Kingdom?" What is the significance of being "within the kingdom?"


For example, I live in the State of New Jersey, which has its own government elected by its own residents every four years. However, New Jersey is NOT independent as it is part of the United States of America.

Apr 18, 2012 7:52 PM in response to Philly_Phan

I'm not offended at all and certainly do not wish to start an argument. I hope I can explain this in a way so you can understand. It is similar but slightly different than the USA.

There have been many constitutional changes in the relations between Holland and it's former colonies thru the years - 1954, 1975, 1986, and the last one on October 10, 2010.

As of this last date the (equal) partners in the Kingdom of the Netherlands are Holland, Aruba, Curaçao and St. Maarten. The other Dutch Caribbean islands of Bonaire, Saba, and St. Eustatius have become "special municipalities" of Holland.

Now, while each partner has it's own Goverment and completely takes care of it's own affairs, a limited number of affairs are delegated to the Kingdom Government. These are defense, foreign affairs and nationality.

Each partner (Holland, Aruba, Curacao and St. Maarten) has representation in the Kingdom Government.

All of us, residents of these countries carry a European Passport (because the Kingdom is member of the European Union), can freely travel to and reside in any European Union country and can freely make use of the Netherlands Embassies and Consulates all over the world. The Royal Netherlands Navy is present on each of our islands.

With exception of the three affairs mentioned above, our Goverment (Parliament and the Council of Ministers) handle all other affairs. We do not know a Federal Government as was the case before 1986 when the Netherlands Antilles still existed.

You may ask yourself what happened to Bonaire, Saba, and St. Eustatius? Well, they are now a part of Holland, which was there own choice.

Hopefully this entire constitutional situation is now clear to you. Leave it to the Dutch to create complicated but effective situations.

Apr 18, 2012 8:17 PM in response to Rodarends

Thanks. My interpretation is that you're not truly independent because of "defense, foreign affairs and nationality." In addition, the power reserved to the kindgom MIGHT be limited to those items because of practicality (distance from one partner to any other partner).


In the U.S.A., "defense, foreign affairs and nationality" (and money) are also reserved for the federal government but it also has its hand in other things. In fact, right now there is major political disagreement regarding how much involvement the federal government should have in these other things. Maybe half the population feels that it's not enough while the other half feels that it's too much. Makes for fun elections.


Interesting information. Thanks again.

Aug 16, 2013 6:31 PM in response to Rodarends

Better to leave this discussion alone. Seems it is still difficult for some to understand and except. Aruba is not an independent nation. Aruba has self governance within the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Being part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands opens the door for Arubans to have an European passport, because the Netherlands is part of the European Union. That is all there is to it.


Aruba doesn't work with zip and state codes. If i am correct the zip codes are part of the verification systems for credit cards. If the credit card company doesn't list you as such that you don't have to fill in a zip code then forget it and look for a credit card company that does or simply live with the inconvenience for now if your bank does not have another agreement with a credit card company.

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