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Sos_Mac Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

I put a second hard drive in my Power Mac G4 Quicksilver 2002, and I decided to clone the old HDD to the new. The first time I tried it, it went on, never starting, just saying "calculating estimated time." In my foolishness, I closed the window, and ignored the warning. The second time I tried it, it went on for a good while, so I left it to it. When I came back the kernel panic screen was up. I restarted the computer, and checked the second HDD. It had about half of the Applications copied into it, so it was working initially. I booted with my install DVD, and ran disk utility and both disks were fine, no repairs needed. What happened? Should I try it again? Should I erase the second HDD and then try again? What was the problem? Did I do ANYTHING right? If anyone knows what it means, this was the kernel panic info:

 

Interval Since Last Panic Report:  25215 sec

Panics Since Last Report:          1

Anonymous UUID: DBA4349C-EFC0-4AA9-83BD-CCE4AD0E89E3

 

Sun Apr 22 19:31:59 2012

 

 

Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000016FFFCDC PC=0x000000000024A068

Latest crash info for cpu 0:

Exception state (sv=0x305d6000)

PC=0x0024A068; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x16FFFCDC; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x0024A024; R1=0x2A0A75A0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

Backtrace:

0x0007A1C4 0x0024B204 0x0010C2FC 0x000EF15C 0x000F0808 0x000F1B20

0x0024AF04 0x00269B94 0x00269F00 0x0010BDE4 0x000F4B70 0x00101A24 0x000F8C94 0x000F9230

0x003100AC 0x000B4448 0x00000000

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x305d6000)

previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...

Exception state (sv=0x2a0b8000)

PC=0x97A75760; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0xE00C8000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x95B625A4; R1=0xF0073320; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

 

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: asr

 

Mac OS version:

9L31a

 

Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC

System model name: PowerMac3,5

 

System uptime in nanoseconds: 3321091763517

unloaded kexts:

  1. com.apple.driver.AppleAirPortFW 400.9 - last unloaded 90095705410

loaded kexts:

  1. com.Ralink.driver.RT2870USBWirelessDriver   2.0.1
  2. com.apple.driver.AppleAirPortFW 400.9 - last loaded 86277981061
  3. com.apple.filesystems.autofs        2.0.2
  4. com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
  5. com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial            1.3.2
  6. com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio          2.5.8f1
  7. com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP         1.7.7
  8. com.apple.ATIRadeon        5.4.8
  9. com.apple.driver.AppleDallasDriver         2.5.8f1
  10. com.apple.driver.AppleAirPort       400.9
  11. com.apple.driver.AppleI2S 1.0.1f1
  12. com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver  3.4.6
  13. com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite   3.2.0
  14. com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice  2.1.1
  15. com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient       2.1.1
  16. com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub   3.4.9
  17. com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2
  18. com.apple.driver.XsanFilter           2.7.91
  19. com.apple.iokit.IOATABlockStorage         2.0.6
  20. com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport         1.5.3
  21. com.apple.driver.ApplePMU          2.5.6d2
  22. com.apple.driver.AppleVIA 1.5.1d1
  23. com.apple.driver.AppleMPIC         1.5.3
  24. com.apple.driver.KeyLargoATA     1.1.1f1
  25. com.apple.driver.AppleI2C 4.0.0d2
  26. com.apple.iokit.AppleGMACEthernet      1.5.9f1
  27. com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI   3.9.7
  28. com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.4.6
  29. com.apple.driver.AppleKeyLargo  1.7.2f1
  30. com.apple.driver.AppleMacRiscPCI         3.4.0
  31. com.apple.driver.AppleCore99NVRAM   1.1.1
  32. com.apple.security.seatbelt            107.12
  33. com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall            1.8.77
  34. com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet  3
  35. com.apple.driver.DiskImages         199
  36. com.apple.BootCache        30.4
  37. com.apple.driver.AppleMacRISC2PE      1.8.7d5
  38. com.apple.driver.ndrv.ATY,BlueStone.0x16225110     1.0.0f242
  39. com.apple.driver.AudioI2SControl            2.5.8f1
  40. com.apple.driver.Apple02Audio    2.5.8f1
  41. com.apple.driver.Apple02DBDMAAudio 2.5.8f1
  42. com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily      1.6.9fc5
  43. com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib  1.1
  44. com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport  1.7.3
  45. com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily            1.7.3
  46. com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family     216.1
  47. com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily      9.4
  48. com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice            2.1.1
  49. com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily         1.5
  50. com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily      1.5
  51. com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily        1.5
  52. com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily          2.1.1
  53. com.apple.iokit.IOATAFamily         2.0.1
  54. com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily

 

Model: PowerMac3,5, BootROM 4.3.3f2, 1 processor, PowerPC G4  (2.1), 800 MHz, 1.25 GB

Graphics: kHW_ATIrv200Item, ATY,RV200, spdisplays_agp_device, 32 MB

Memory Module: DIMM0/J21, 512 MB, SDRAM, PC100-333S

Memory Module: DIMM1/J22, 512 MB, SDRAM, PC133-333

Memory Module: DIMM2/J23, 256 MB, SDRAM, PC133-333

AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport, 9.52

Modem: Spring, UCJ, V.90, 7.0F

PCI Card: pci9004,7850, sppci_scsi_bus, SLOT-5

Parallel ATA Device: ST340016A, 38.18 GB

Parallel ATA Device: Maxtor 6L160P0, 152.67 GB

Parallel ATA Device: HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH22NP21

USB Device: 802.11 g WLAN, (null) mA

USB Device: Hub in Apple Extended USB Keyboard, (null) mA

USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse, (null) mA

USB Device: Apple Extended USB Keyboard, (null) mA


PowerMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Airport Card
  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,415 points)

    What App are cloning with???

     

    Have you used Disk Utility to Verify & Repair if needed both Drives?

  • Sos_Mac Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Disk Utility to clone. I Verified and Repaired, nothing needed repairing. Should I just attempt it again, maybe with another application?

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,415 points)

    Best way to get an exact bootable copy of your old drive to the new one is with Carbon Copy Cloner...

     

    http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

  • Sos_Mac Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Alright, will try. Can I do it even though I got a kernel panic last time? Was that just a one time thing because I messed it up the first time?

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,415 points)

    I'd try it, it's inconclusive as to what caused it, shouldn't hurt to try it, but first...

     

    In Finder's Menu, select Go menu>Go to Folder, and go to "/volumes". (no quotes)

     

    Volumes is where an alias to your hard drive ("/" at boot) is placed at startup, and where all the "mount points" for auxiliary drives are created for you to access them. This folder is normally hidden from view.

     

    Drives with an extra 1 on the end have a side-effect of mounting a drive with the same name as the system already think exists. Try trashing the duplicates with a 1 or 2 if there are no real files in them, and reboot.

     

    If it does contain data...

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2474

  • Sos_Mac Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Oh! Important detail! The second drive is set to slave. Does that matter?

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,415 points)

    On some drives or drive combinations it does matter, normally if iirc, Cable Select is the prefered Jumper setting on both... or was that MDDS & up???

     

    Some drives have a Master with Salve vs. Single setting.

  • Sos_Mac Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I'm a bit lost... How do I figure out which drive setting it needs to be? (open the case, look at the jumper settings, ect...)?

     

    It's this:

     

    160GB DiamondMax® 10 Hard Disk Drive

     

    Specifications

     

     

    Form Factor

     

    3.5″ HDD

    Interface

    ATA/133

    Capacity1

    160GB

    Formatted Capacity2

    111GiB

    Rotational Speed

    7,200 RPM

    Cache / Data Buffer

    8MB

    Manufacturer Model Number

    6B160P0

    Format

    Unformatted (Instructions on formatting here)

  • Sos_Mac Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    2012-04-23_0644.png

    That is what my jumper settings look like. B&C I think...

  • japamac Level 7 Level 7 (24,390 points)

    Your machine (2002 Quicksilver) should have drives jumped Master and Slave; best if the Master is on the end connector of the IDE ribbon.

     

    Your system report says that you have an Airport card AND a USB wireless 801.11g device, the second of which (I assume) uses the Ralink driver that is included in the report.

     

    I would remove the USB wireless device while cloning.

     

    I would (and do, exclusively) use SuperDuper to clone, as I have seen far fewer reports of inability to boot with a SuperDuper clone than I have seen with CCC clone users.

  • Ramón G Castañeda Level 4 Level 4 (1,460 points)

    japamac wrote:

     

    …I would (and do, exclusively) use SuperDuper to clone, as I have seen far fewer reports of inability to boot with a SuperDuper clone than I have seen with CCC clone users.

     

    That's reassuring.    Thank you for that japamac.

  • Sos_Mac Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Thank you for the help, japamac and BDAqua... One more confusing question. I went to the /volumes and saw the aliasas. But what exactly do I do there? I found "Macintosh HD 1," but that had all the proper files in it, while "Macintosh HD" had the little bit that was originally cloned before it kernel panicked. If I'm not making any sense, here's some screenshots:

    Picture 1.pngPicture 2.pngPicture 3.png

    I'm afraid to do anything or download anything before I fix it.

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (120,415 points)

    Whew!

     

    the top Machintosh HD has both of it's things as Aliases, but what is on the Macintosh HD below iDisk?

     

    What do you get with Finder>GO>Go to Folder>/Volumes/

    FinderGoVolumes.jpg

  • Sos_Mac Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    I get that. What the pictures show.  The bottom Macintosh hd is the one that was half cloned. There is no volumes folder in there, it wasn't copied Over. The second photo is what it looks like when I click on it. I think that "Macintosh HD" is the half cloned drive, because it only has a couple of the applications in it, and "Macintosh HD 1" is the normal, full drive.

     

    My "volumes" folder isn't hidden, it's right there on the screen. Perhaps because we have different os's?

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