Working with inline images: How to get them to the edge of the page.

I'm thinking about buying Pages - so does this mean it cannot do full bleed?

Sam150

What alignment have you set on the image and how did you do it?

igirl1

This may or may not just be a limitation of epubs which work with in the page margins.

Peter

Set document amrgins to zero and in those parts you want a margin use layout margins.

Nope guys. You cant get an in-line image in pages to go to full bleed. Ive been battling with this for hours. just cant do it.

Fruhulda - even if you set teh margins to zero - the in line images wont bleed off.... OK for floating images though. This is a seriopus flaw in pages ro creating ePUB documents.

I tried and found that you have to in Page Setup choose a paper size that is borderless. in view menu click on Show Layout. You will get a grey border on the"paper". That is the part you printer can write on. I thin this could be the problem. If you have a borderless version choose it. I don't do ePub so I can't check if this the solution for you.

Borderless version Border

Hi. Thanks for the reply but I still cant get it to do it.

- Set paper to a borderless option.

- Set my page margins to zero.

Pages still wont let me make the in-line image go to full bleed. Just stops it being enlarged about 5mm in from the edge.

If the image is set to "floating" instead of "inline" all is well with the layout. However pages wont then export as ePUB. the images must all be in-line. Are you certain that your image is set to in-line? not floating?

Dave

You can see here....

Very frustrating.

dave

How about if one simply creates a much larger custom paper size?

Want full bleed 8.5x11? Make a page size of 10.5x13 - then use rulers ad guides to fit a 8.5x11 doc with 1" extra "borders".

Hopefully - If your print shop can understand how to trim/center, then all is good.

Yes the image is inline! Would you mind sending me your document? I will try and see why the image doesn't goes to the edges. Click on my alias and you'll find my address

1" bleed is totally excessive. 1/8" or 3mm is standard.

There seems to be some misuse of the term bleed here. Bleed is the extra image that goes past the trim of a printed page. As you are doing an epub that is irrelevant.

All you want is borderless and this is achievable on Pages by specifying a borderless page size and then zero margins. You can make insets for the regular text to simulate borders.

In my tests the image will sit hard left and right but there is a fractional gap at the top that even baseline shift won't fix. But that probably won't be noticeable in an ePub.

Peter

PeterBreis0807 wrote:

1" bleed is totally excessive. 1/8" or 3mm is standard.

I know - I was being "over the top" to empahize the point that one can easily fill to the edges and way beyond - coming up short is not forced. Bigger doc size + bleed the image(s) past the trim size and you're set for any press printed piece.

Sorry, wsnt being flippant withthe inline commemts! Ill send the doc to you now.

To the opthers - the idea of bleed is irelevant as im trying to make ePUBs, so the main thing is fo me to be able to get the cover image to extend to the edge of the page so that when you see it in ibooks / kobo / etc the cover picture has no ugly white edges (no matter how small)!

Thanks for the interest in the thread. I m sure it will be of use to plenty of others too.

igirl1 wrote:

Bigger doc size + bleed the image(s) past the trim size and you're set for any press printed piece.

Not with Pages you aren't. I wouldn't recommend Pages for commercial press, stick to your desktop printer.

Peter

This is what I send to Dave:

I could get the images to the edge on three sides by uncheck Constrain proportions and change the width.

I also zerod the Heather and Footer before unchecking them again. I enlarged the images a little in the Inspector > Metrics.

BUT I couldn't get rid of the small white border at the bottom. I think it is because the paragraph break needs some space. You have to accept that white space.

Then I inserted Layout breaks so you can define some margins. You have to add one on each page. I have just added 2 or 3 at the beginning. You need severl layout breaks so you can adjust the Before and After space

fruhulda

Try this:

Create an image box, cut it off the page and paste it into the main text layer of a document with no margins.

Remove the stroke but leave the green.

Change it's size to 21 x 29.7cm (Exactly A4).

There is only a fractional white space at the top of the page. My suspicions are instantlly aroused, nothing is what it seems in this WYSIWG world we live in.

Print it to pdf and open in Preview. There are no exposed edges anywhere!

I also exported to ePUb but don't have a tablet to test this on so opened it in Calibre. Unfortunately it doesn't like ePubs with covers but no text, but the Preview looks fine.

Peter