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Easter Egg or Hacker?

This may sound like a silly question however......

I recently upgraded to lion. when I finished the install I went to the login screen and the login message was set to "Welcome Plebb" I'm wondering if I have stumbled on an easter egg or if I have been hacked or something along those lines.

Mac OS X (10.7.3)

Posted on Apr 28, 2012 5:49 AM

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Apr 28, 2012 6:55 AM in response to Icarus8

How did you upgrade? Was the machine running Snow Leopard, or was this a fresh install with data migrated from somewhere else, and where did you obtain the Lion installer? Was this a used computer? Where precisely are you seeing that welcome message? Is this the sort of prank one of your friends who has physical access to the computer might have played on you? Does the name "Plebb" have any significance to you?


Your Mac has not been "pwned," as ds store suggests.

Apr 28, 2012 7:16 AM in response to Icarus8

Your Mac has not been "pwned," as ds store suggests.



If someone had physical access to the machine and changed the log in screen itself, yes.


Some operating systems like Linux allow one to leave a message at the log in screen which appears when the person attempts to log in, this of course is not a hack, but someone had phyical access to your machine and if they knew what they were doing possibly could have time to do something.


Mac's are incredibly easy to crack via physical access to the machine on the default setup.


So in all intensive purposes you had a physical security breach with unauthorized access, thus you were basically pwned unless you can determine the persons responsible are unable to perform simple instructions to crack your Mac.

Apr 28, 2012 9:31 AM in response to ds store

Mac's are incredibly easy to crack via physical access


No easier than any other machine... and harder than some, depending on configuration.


And, of course, a real hacker with physical access and malicious intent wouldn't be so stupid as to announce his presence with a custom welcome message. There's absolutely no reason, based on the information provided, to recommend erasing the entire hard drive.

Apr 28, 2012 9:49 AM in response to thomas_r.

Thanks for all the feedback so far.


No one at all has had physical access to my computer.


I upgraded last night (from snow leopard) from a copy of lion downloaded from the app store on my mac

, the upgrade didn't complete entirely it got down to "less than a minute remaining" and stayed there for around 2 hours so I reset the mac. When I finished reseting the copy of lion loaded (so i guess it finished the install).

I had backed up my old system using time machine on an external drive just incase I lost them in the upgrade.


I created a new user in the hopes of replacing a login using migration with my old back up copy which is still on the main hard drive just not part of the same login.


When I logged out of the login I created during the lion install and into the new one I created for the migration there was a message below the two login icons saying "welcome plebb".


Plebb has no significance to me whatso ever.


I wondering if this is a real security concern for my system.


I have a copy little snitch, and I'm currently running a trial of virus barrierx6 after a full scan it didn't detect anything.


I'm wondering if I have been hacked and where to go from here to insure I do have a secure system.

Apr 28, 2012 10:27 AM in response to Icarus8

You have not been hacked. Macs are pretty much impossible to hack remotely with out-of-the-box settings, and even with every setting set as insecurely as possible, it's still just about impossible to hack a Mac remotely through whatever router you have installed to manage your network. It takes a unique combination of settings on the Mac, port forwarding on the router and poor password choices to get access remotely.


And you say nobody has had physical access, by which I assume you mean nobody untrusted. So it's either some kind of prank, where someone you know with physical access set the security setting Linc mentioned, or it was migrated somehow. (I'm a bit unclear on exactly what you migrated, to where and from where.)


As to the malware angle, there is no currently known Mac malware that behaves this way. While it is conceivably possible that you have encountered something brand new, not yet seen by anyone else, that for some reason announces its presence (counter-productive for modern malware, that wants to stay hidden), but that's quite unlikely.


Note that ds store's advice is often overly paranoid and a bit off-the-wall. Don't let him scare you into doing something too drastic unnecessarily. You do NOT need to erase your hard drive!

Apr 29, 2012 3:11 AM in response to thomas_r.

Thanks for your help Thomas


I'm still just wondering how this could have happened. there is pretty much no conceivable way someone has had physical access to my computer. And what action I should take


Also current my computer has a stream of data both up loading and downloading (around 5KB/s upload and 230KB/s Download) despite hte fact I'm not aware of any software running that should be uploading or downloading anything.

Apr 29, 2012 4:24 AM in response to Icarus8

I can tell you two things about the word 'plebb' -


1. it's a common 'soft' insult for 'stupid' used mainly by the English


2. it would be unlikely to be used by anyone under the age of 35.


Got any 35-plus yr old English friends that have been anywhere near your computer recently??


EDIT:

BTW, 'physical access' means nothing more than 15 minutes at most if you're running Lion without FV2 enabled.. And that's assuming you have firmware password set. Without that, I could break into your system and change your passwords in the time it took you to go to the bathroom and back.

Apr 29, 2012 4:35 AM in response to softwater

Hi Softwater


Thanks for the info.

The thing is I'm away from home and I literally know only three people. only one of which has had access to my computer and would definitley have no desire (nor opportunity to change the log in screen).


I was literally the only person to touch my computer at the time when the message occured and it happened literally 15 minutes after I finished installing lion.


I'm more concerned someone has some how got remote access to my computer and is kind enough to not steal from me and instead has just left a cheeky message essentially letting me know they have access.


Is there any way I can tell easily if someone has remote access or any software that would track down tools (eg a specific antivirus software) that could be used to gain / maintain access to my mac remotely.

Apr 29, 2012 5:43 AM in response to Icarus8

Yes, I'd got the impression that this was a fairly instantaneous thing. Still, it's possible that something was done to your Snow Leopard install before you upgraded. Snow Leopard's hardly more secure than Lion, but again along with others I'm still assuming a physical access intrusion, which doesn't seem to fit what you're saying


Can you still see the pleb message? Can you post a screenshot? Also, can you post a screenshot of your activity monitor processes.


Thomas would be better qualified than I to advise you on tracking tools, but I will say avoid anything like MacKeeper. Download Little Snitch for sniffing out traffic in and out of your compuer and ClamXav for AV ware (both free to download), but await more specialist advice from others on here before doing anything to remove the problem. It's as important to find out how it happened as it is to remove it if you want to ensure your system is safe from any future problem.

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