Repair Disk Permissions same results three times

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Repair Disk Permissions same results three times

On my Mac Book (running 10.5.8) Safari started to quit unexcpetitily. So I ran the Repair Permissions restarted my machine ran it again and got the same results from the repair permissions. Hmm thats odd. So I booted into "Single User" Mode and ram fsck -y everything was OK there. Booted back into the OS and ran Repair Permissions again Same Permissions came back as fixed again. Hmm.. Here they are:

Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”

Reading permissions database.

Reading the permissions database can take several minutes.

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/DVD.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/FRSettings.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/FRSources.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/Movies.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/Music.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/Photos.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/Podcasts.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/Contents/PlugIns/TV.frappliance/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/BackRow.framework/Versions/A/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/RemoteDesktop.menu/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

Permissions differ on "Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaPluginCocoa.bundle/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are lrw-rw-r-- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/_CodeSignature/CodeResou rces", should be ?--------- , they are ---------- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacSyncManager.framework/Versions/A/_CodeS ignature/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are ---------- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacSyncManager.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/DotMacSyncHelper.app/Contents/_CodeSignature/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are ---------- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacSyncManager.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/dotmacsyncui.app/Contents/_CodeSignature/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are ---------- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DotMacLegacy.framework/Versions/A/_CodeSignat ure/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are ---------- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/Extensions/IOUSBMassStorageClass.kext/Contents/_CodeSignature/C odeDirectory", should be ?--------- , they are ---------- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/Extensions/IOUSBMassStorageClass.kext/Contents/_CodeSignature/C odeResources", should be ?--------- , they are ---------- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/Extensions/IOUSBMassStorageClass.kext/Contents/_CodeSignature/C odeSignature", should be ?--------- , they are ---------- .

Permissions differ on "System/Library/SystemProfiler/SPDisplaysReporter.spreporter/Contents/_CodeSign ature/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are ---------- .

Permissions repair complete

Thanks for the help on this one

Thanks

MacBook (13-inch Mid 2007), Mac OS X (10.4.11), 1GB Ram

Posted on Apr 28, 2012 7:25 PM

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Answer 1

BDAqua

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Apr 28, 2012 7:33 PM in response to Michael Houser1

Hi Michael,

Though you do need to Repair Permissions once in awhile, especially in 10.4.x after Installing most anything, you have to & can safely ignore repeated Repair Messages.

Some or maybe most of it is due to multiple updates, with each one tweaking the Permissions.

There is no problem on the 2nd or more runs, just Apple. 😉

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Answer 2

X423424X

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Apr 29, 2012 12:11 AM in response to Michael Houser1

Repair permissions always reports a bunch of stuff. Ignore it.

Mac OS X: Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions messages that you can safely ignore

If you are getting "unexpectedly quit" aborts from safari then repairing permissions is not going to fix it. Did the error report say why it quit unexpectedly?

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Answer 3

Apr 29, 2012 4:49 AM in response to Michael Houser1

You have a number of files without any permission bits set. Such as:

Permissions differ on "System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/_CodeSignature/CodeResources", should be ?--------- , they are ---------- .

It could mean the files are missing or at some point the files were damaged. Neither the repair permissions function of Disk Utility or fsck_hfs can fix the issue. Possibly, reapplying the 10.5.8 Combo update will fix the issue though I would be inclined to re-install the operating system.

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Answer 4

Klaus1

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Apr 29, 2012 9:47 AM in response to Michael Houser1

As long as the report ends up with 'Permissions repair complete' then, as far as permissions go, you are fine. You can ignore the various statements in the report:

Permissions you can ignore on 10.5 and 10.6:

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448

Using 'should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r--' as an example, you will see the that the permissions are not changed, but the | indicates a different location. This is because an update to Leopard changed the location of a number of system components.

Poster rccharles has provided this description of what it all means:

drwxrwxrwx

d = directory

r = read

w = write

x = executeable program

drwxrwxrwx

| | |

| | all other users not in first two types

| |

| group

|

owner

a little more info

Before the user had read & write. A member of the group had read.

After, only the user had read & write.

If you are running Panther or Tiger:

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21090

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Answer 5

BDAqua

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Apr 29, 2012 10:49 AM in response to Mark Jalbert

Aha, good eye Mark, thanks. 🙂

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Answer 6

X423424X

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Apr 29, 2012 1:26 PM in response to Klaus1

Klaus1 if are going to keep using that description you need to fix up your alignment of the "pointers" to owner, group, others. Maybe use a actual filler for the spaces since the forum posting software really screws the spacing.

In trying to show you what I meant I found I couldn't space it correctly either. Ended up doing this to see how it would appear:

drwxrwxrwx

.|..|..|

.|..|..others

.|..|

.|..group

.|

.owner

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Answer 7

Apr 29, 2012 1:44 PM in response to X423424X

A picture is worth a thousand words...:-)

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Answer 8

X423424X

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Apr 29, 2012 6:53 PM in response to Mark Jalbert

Yes, picture is better. Silly forum software won't touch that.

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BDAqua

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Apr 29, 2012 6:59 PM in response to X423424X

Not only the more than silly forum SW, but the even sillier fact that simple Monospaced fonts like Monaco aren't Monospaced if you use spaces! 😟 😠

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X423424X

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Apr 29, 2012 7:47 PM in response to BDAqua

Yes, I discovered that when trying to type my response to Klaus1 above.😠 That's how I ended up with the dots as spacers. Mark Jalbert's picture is better because it is the complete description.

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Answer 11

BDAqua

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Apr 29, 2012 8:57 PM in response to X423424X

Whilst this iteration of the forums has many improvements, I'm not certain it doesn't have more steps backwards. 😟

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Answer 12

Apr 30, 2012 7:57 AM in response to BDAqua

Regardless of the forum software, these boilerplate responses would be better served as a User Tip or external link. In most cases, users with this question are looking for answers not a lesson. Well, to bring this a bit more on topic, all the well intended contributors to this post might consider prepending there response with "In most cases.........".

BTW, I also appreciate your thank you's. You're a great contributor to this forum.

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Answer 13

Apr 30, 2012 5:07 PM in response to Mark Jalbert

So the Consense is Repair Permissions is not needed anymore?

Thanks

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Answer 14

BDAqua

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Apr 30, 2012 5:21 PM in response to Michael Houser1

It's needed generally after installs, but what is needed is to ignore repeated runs of it & the messages it comes up with repeatedly.

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Answer 15

c_cake

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May 5, 2012 5:54 PM in response to Michael Houser1

Check your HD into Apple. I had similar problem-- repeating permissions issues even after running disk repairs, file save errors asking me to check if the disk was installed properly when saving to desktop, and chronic application failures.

After persistenting in having my local Genius Bar do a long (i.e. in house 48 hour) HD chek, the HD failed the test and they replaced it.

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