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jcleveland Level 1 Level 1

I just kept getting PLAGUED with apocolyptic  "Make the Switch to iCloud Before it's Too Late!" emails and just switched over.

Only to discover that now my Mac Mail now no longer works.

No, I am not on Lion yet. Is this the reason why? I'm sure it is. I can collect (thank God) my emails on my iPhone, and online through my browser, but it's a pain in the butt, because I can't sort them, answer them, put them into smartboxes, etc. (I got a lot of smart mailboxes.)

Why have I not upgraded to Lion, you wonder?

Because I have a wicked old Quicken program (Quicken for Mac 2004) with ALL my accounting/bank/tax info in it (I'm a sole proprietor) and it will not work when I go to Lion (I can't even import it to the Quicken 2007 for Lion, it's that old, that's like a whole other problem, does anyone know if iBank can import Quicken 2004 data??) This is why I have been putting off this transfer for so long because I don't have hundreds of dollars to buy a new Quicken (or whatever I need) program.

But I thought my Mac Mail would be ok.

But it's not.

Sigh.

If anyone out there can help me with my dilemma(s) with thoughts, answers, suggestions, I would be eternally grateful. And I'd buy you a beer if I could stick it through this bloody machine.

Julie

Solved by Roger Wilmut1 on May 3, 2012 10:15 AM Solved

You haven't postged your system (please always do) but I gather you are on a pre-Lion system, which is therefore not iCloud-compatible.

 

You can set your Mail application up manually to access your iCloud email:

 

Entering iCloud email settings manually in Snow Leopard or Leopard

 

Entering iCloud email settings manually in Tiger

Reply by marcella29 on May 3, 2012 1:19 PM Helpful

I just now found the solution to the exact same problem you're experiencing.

 

To have this work for you however you'll need to log into: http://appleid.apple.com

and change your password. I bet right now your password doesn't contain a mix Cap letters and numbers, well

believe it or not for Mail to work on iCloud you need to switch your password to one that contains a mix of caps and numbers... pretty silly but that's part of the solution.

 

Please follow these instructions and it will work it did for me but don't forget to change your password which is also mentionned in this link. Good luck!

 

http://www.wilmut.webspace.virginmedia.com/notes/icloudmail.html

Reply by Ellee H. on May 4, 2012 11:41 AM Helpful

In March when I upgraded to Lion and iCloud I also experienced a similar problem (cluster of problems) which was solved by a password reset (conforming to new requirements) for my Apple ID. I'm glad to see that many nice people contributed and your primary problem is fixed.  My comment is on your Quicken problem.

 

Your data inside Quicken 2004 is on borrowed time.  In the process of researching personal budgeting apps I found many reports on the web that indicate Intuit as a company is scaling down Quicken (desktop) development and its future attention to the Mac platform will be minimal.

 

Did you know that Intuit is behind Mint.com?  You may be hesitant to put your financial data "in the cloud" and I may be being sheepish, but.. bbaaaa, bbaaaaa, the cloud is where it's going.  I know first-hand want a pain in the arse it is to customize an app to your liking.  I spent several hours on Mint.com setting up categories and tagging transactions.  It's tedious. I didn't look because I wasn't a Quicken user, but perhaps Intuit was nice enough to provide a data conversion path for Mint.com.  It is worth a look.

 

My second suggestion is to scour the web for a hack solution.  You can't be the only person who is facing this problem.  Quicken was very popular.  I just bet someone has posted directions or some code for exporting the Quicken 2004 data and manipulating it for something else.

 

Good Luck.

Ellee H.

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  • Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Delete your MobileMe mail account from your mail preferences. Create an iCloud mail account using the Mail Server Information

  • jcleveland Level 1 Level 1

    Hi Winston,

    Will I lose my mail at all, I mean, am I safe when I delete my MobileMe account? Will I get all my mail back?

    Yes, I am paranoid.

    Thank you,

    Julie C. Gloucester, MASS

  • Winston Churchill Level 10 Level 10
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    If you're worried about losing your mail at all, simply drag it to another folder in your mail application that isn't associated with your MobileMe or iCloud account.

  • jcleveland Level 1 Level 1

    I did everything you instructed Winston, to no avail!

    So my question is not solved yet.

    I kept getting a "your password is rejected" message, and now my mail is invisible, nothing there.

    Thank goodness I have Time Machine and an external hard drive so I can retrieve my mail from last night.

    Googled and apparently a lot of users are getting this same message when they do this conversion and don't have Lion??

    Anyone else out there with this same problem that can help me?

  • Roger Wilmut1 Level 9 Level 9
    expertise.itunes
    iTunes

    You haven't postged your system (please always do) but I gather you are on a pre-Lion system, which is therefore not iCloud-compatible.

     

    You can set your Mail application up manually to access your iCloud email:

     

    Entering iCloud email settings manually in Snow Leopard or Leopard

     

    Entering iCloud email settings manually in Tiger

  • marcella29 Level 1 Level 1

    I just now found the solution to the exact same problem you're experiencing.

     

    To have this work for you however you'll need to log into: http://appleid.apple.com

    and change your password. I bet right now your password doesn't contain a mix Cap letters and numbers, well

    believe it or not for Mail to work on iCloud you need to switch your password to one that contains a mix of caps and numbers... pretty silly but that's part of the solution.

     

    Please follow these instructions and it will work it did for me but don't forget to change your password which is also mentionned in this link. Good luck!

     

    http://www.wilmut.webspace.virginmedia.com/notes/icloudmail.html

  • marcella29 Level 1 Level 1

    Hi Roger,

    what a coincidence I just found on the web your technical notes about the same problem jcleveland has and in matter of minutes... problem solved. I should have read your reply before sending him the exact same thing.

    Well I'll take this opportunity to give big thanks for your help.

     

    Cheers

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8
    expertise.desktops
    Desktops

    marcella29 wrote:

     

    I just now found the solution to the exact same problem you're experiencing.

     

    To have this work for you however you'll need to log into: http://appleid.apple.com

    and change your password. I bet right now your password doesn't contain a mix Cap letters and numbers, well

    believe it or not for Mail to work on iCloud you need to switch your password to one that contains a mix of caps and numbers... pretty silly but that's part of the solution.

     

    Believe it or not a more secure password will protect you better than one that is less secure.

  • jcleveland Level 1 Level 1

    Thank you, Roger, you solved my problem.

    Now onto the Quicken problem (know anything about that?? I want to upgrade to Lion already, but am on Quicken 2004 for Mac, yup, 2004, pathetic I know. Just saw on Quicken site that 04 cannot even be imported to Quicken Lion-Compatible 07...what to do?)

     

    Julie C.

  • Ellee H. Level 1 Level 1

    In March when I upgraded to Lion and iCloud I also experienced a similar problem (cluster of problems) which was solved by a password reset (conforming to new requirements) for my Apple ID. I'm glad to see that many nice people contributed and your primary problem is fixed.  My comment is on your Quicken problem.

     

    Your data inside Quicken 2004 is on borrowed time.  In the process of researching personal budgeting apps I found many reports on the web that indicate Intuit as a company is scaling down Quicken (desktop) development and its future attention to the Mac platform will be minimal.

     

    Did you know that Intuit is behind Mint.com?  You may be hesitant to put your financial data "in the cloud" and I may be being sheepish, but.. bbaaaa, bbaaaaa, the cloud is where it's going.  I know first-hand want a pain in the arse it is to customize an app to your liking.  I spent several hours on Mint.com setting up categories and tagging transactions.  It's tedious. I didn't look because I wasn't a Quicken user, but perhaps Intuit was nice enough to provide a data conversion path for Mint.com.  It is worth a look.

     

    My second suggestion is to scour the web for a hack solution.  You can't be the only person who is facing this problem.  Quicken was very popular.  I just bet someone has posted directions or some code for exporting the Quicken 2004 data and manipulating it for something else.

     

    Good Luck.

    Ellee H.

  • jcleveland Level 1 Level 1

    Thanks Ellee,

    I don't use Quicken for "financial data" really, just my checking accounts registers and for quick reports when I do my taxes (I'm self-employed). Just blows to HAVE to switch to something when I've been using this for so long, you know, I don't have to "learn" anything new--who's got time? Not me. I'm a self-employed working-my-arse-off-with-no-extra-to-learn-new-tech stuff person. Blows that Apple's making me do all this updating crap. But I know I gotta make the move to Lion. I just never updated Quicken, ever, cos I never had to, so why bother you know?

    I will look for the hack solutions, you're right. I can't be the only one who just sat on Qu 04 for years and years.

    Do you know anything about iBank?

    Thanks, Julie

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8
    expertise.desktops
    Desktops

    Can't you export a .qif file from 2004?

  • jcleveland Level 1 Level 1

    I went to the Quicken site (http://quicken.intuit.com/support/help/upgrading-and-conversion/quicken-mac-2007 -os-x-lion-compatible/GEN84015.html; see last paragraph) and it said that 2004 is too old to export into the Quicken Lion-Compatible 2007 version.  Any suggestions?

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8
    expertise.desktops
    Desktops

    jcleveland wrote:

     

    I went to the Quicken site (http://quicken.intuit.com/support/help/upgrading-and-conversion/quicken-mac-2007 -os-x-lion-compatible/GEN84015.html; see last paragraph) and it said that 2004 is too old to export into the Quicken Lion-Compatible 2007 version.  Any suggestions?

    Maybe others will have a suggestion, I abandoned Quicken because of things like this, went to iBank and haven't looked back since.

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