Sick Windtunnel G4 - Freezes and Panics
Out of nowhere, my 1.25 DP G4, running smooth as glass up until now, has out of nowhere screen freezes. Any suggestions to fix?
PowerMac
Out of nowhere, my 1.25 DP G4, running smooth as glass up until now, has out of nowhere screen freezes. Any suggestions to fix?
PowerMac
Have you blown the dust out layely?
Does it do better if allowed to cool?
One way to test is to Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, Test for problem in Safe Mode...
PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive
Reboot, test again.
If it only does it in Regular Boot, then it could be some hardware problem like Video card, (Quartz is turned off in Safe Mode), or Airport, or 3rd party add-on, Check System Preferences>Accounts>Login Items window to see if it or something relevant is listed.
Check the System Preferences>Other Row, for 3rd party Pref Panes.
Also look in these if they exist, some are invisible...
/private/var/run/StartupItems
/Library/StartupItems
/System/Library/StartupItems
/System/Library/LaunchDaemons
/Library/LaunchDaemons
Have you blown the dust out layely?
Does it do better if allowed to cool?
One way to test is to Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, Test for problem in Safe Mode...
PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive
Reboot, test again.
If it only does it in Regular Boot, then it could be some hardware problem like Video card, (Quartz is turned off in Safe Mode), or Airport, or 3rd party add-on, Check System Preferences>Accounts>Login Items window to see if it or something relevant is listed.
Check the System Preferences>Other Row, for 3rd party Pref Panes.
Also look in these if they exist, some are invisible...
/private/var/run/StartupItems
/Library/StartupItems
/System/Library/StartupItems
/System/Library/LaunchDaemons
/Library/LaunchDaemons
Replaced video card, and thought problem was solved. Kernel panics re-appeared and unable to boot in Safe Mode or standard mode many times. Panics after sleep. Will try to re-boot and check System Prefs. Thanks, BBDAqua. Will update as I know (have rejuvenated iBook on hand).
Do you have the AHT disc?
If not, download and burn AHT v1.2.6 to CD and test your machine:
http://www.info.apple.com/support/aht.html
Test memory with Rember or Memtest X.
No PCI cards or such installed, right?
If so, remove for troubleshooting purposes.
Have a second hard drive or spare volume? Clean install OS X and see how it runs.
KPs and freezes aren't always hardware.....
I can't get it to show the initial screen with the Apple on it; only does so intermittently. If IU manage to get to the Desktp, she freezes. When I attempt to boot OSX from the install DVD, no screen, no response or display; but will keep trying. Could this machine be dead?
Doesn't sound prommising, but anything from a failed hard drive to a failed CPU could be the issue.
Will the machine start up in Open Firmware? If it will, you can check the status of some of your hardware.
Please read, learn and apply the following:
http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/ancient/whatismacosx/arch_boot.html
Of particular interest are in examples 2 and 3 for checking the RAM report and the CPU report.
Thanks, Japamac. I will look into this as soon as I can. I was able to reinstall the OS on another of the 4 hard drives and still getting freezes here and there, particularly after a sleep and when there are more than 4 hard drives in the machine. It was a real push though to where it is now.... freezes galore prior to this new OS instillation.
I was able to reinstall the OS
Good. Progress is good...
Since it's booting, Open Firmware boot is likely unnecessary (for now).
Check the System Profiler/Hardware for proper reports of memory and CPU.
Check the Diagnostics report.
Open Console and look for logs relating to failed processes after sleep wake event.
Pull all but the current boot drive. Lets limit possible suspects.
Pull all PCI cards (if any).
Since it's running, download Memtest X or Rember and test your RAM.
Testing all RAM in Single User mode (use Memtest) is best.
I'd test regardless of the system report.
If the RAM test is clean, then we have eliminated another big possibility.
Japamac,
Came in tonight and the Mac is not booting with the exception of one time. Would a replacement 1/2 AA help? Spent most of yesterday on this and now back @ the beginning.
Have a spare G5, maybe I should set that up and scrap thiis one.
Would a replacement 1/2 AA help?
I always replace batteries in stubborn machines.
Help, or not, it removes doubt.
considering that.
Did you pull out all the extra drives?
Reseat the RAM?
I did that the other day; will try again. In the meantime, I ordered a 1/2 AA and waiting for it to arrive. Will update once I know more.
Pulled out drives, reseated RAM, replaced battery. Still getting black screen (with occasional screen that will show, then freeze or panic) and sometimes no chime w/fans kicking up..... any more thoughts or a funeral with full honors?
I'd consider replacing the Thermal Paste between the CPUs & Heatsink, it could have lost it's properties.
jmac can recommend the best one & way to do it.
Does it take a bit longer to panic if it's cooled?
Look for a dark spot on or around the CPU chip on one or the other of the processors.
While you are there, r&r the thermal compound.
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Heck, pull and reseat the processor card.
Use Arctic Cooling MX-2, 3, or 4, whichever is easy to find (likely 4).
Excellent, safe, long lasting, best cooling.
Sick Windtunnel G4 - Freezes and Panics