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Low(ish) risk, affordable storage/backup solutions?

Apologies if I'm duplicating... couldn't find what I was after with a search.


I'd like a reasonable storage/backup solution for FCP X. My workflow is 7D and Pro Res. I'm edging towards more critical work - eg. paying clients.


I have a Mac Pro, so feel I should make use of the internal drive options. I currently have an additional drive for video/audio, but I need more space and I'd like to explore other options.


How do people store and back-up their video files? Assuming there is always risk, what sort of balance have you found? For example, I don't feel I need a separate off-site back-up.


Current idea...


2 x 1TB drives as RAID 1. Then another drive for manual back-up (currently using SilverKeeper).


Any thoughts on RAID 1? Slower?


Thoughts/opinions appreciated.


Thanks

Ben

2.8GHz Quad, 6 GB, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on May 14, 2012 4:26 PM

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May 14, 2012 9:12 PM in response to Ben Johnston

One opinion:

You might consider populating the second optical drive slot of your MacPro with a Blu-Ray burner. I use Blu-Ray data discs as back up and it has worked out very well. You can burn around 46 or so gigs to a single Blu-Ray DL disc. Storage is convenient, and if you use a Disk Catalog software like DiskCatalogMaker, you can search for files with the disc off-line.


http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/blu-ray


MtD

May 16, 2012 10:05 AM in response to Ben Johnston

The Blu-ray option is an alright one, but keep in mind that for those 50GB discs, you're still talking about $8-10 PER disc. You make 10 discs, and it's already gonna be cheaper to have bought a HDD. Your MacPro technically has space for 6 drives (4 HDD slots plus the two optical bays could be repurposed for hard drives as well). My Mac Pro has 5 HDD and a Blu-ray burner which I do use to burn movies to. Two of my drives (2TB each) are RAID 0 for speed, then those two are RAID 1 to the other two (also 2TB), so I always have two complete copies of all my data. The 5th drive is the original one that came with my Pro which I moved into the second optical bay spot and am using as my boot drive. For the cost, adding a couple more hard drives are infinitely cheaper than burning to Blu-rays the whole time. That's not to say that the Blu-ray option wouldn't be a good one for archiving a lot of data that you don't need immediate access to.


Hope that helps.

May 16, 2012 1:01 PM in response to Brian Kaempen

Thanks Brian. Some questions...


1. Could I have a pair of RAID 0 drives, then add them to a single RAID 1 drive? So, like you're doing but with only three drives. My understanding is that RAID 0 presents a single drive to the OS, so this could be mirrored on a third drive...?


2. Any feelings on supposed increase in data loss/issues with RAID 0?


3. Have you felt the RAID 0 drives are faster than standard drives?


Thanks for advice. And thanks for Maximus link David - will investigate.

May 16, 2012 2:11 PM in response to Ben Johnston

There are four levels of back up.


1. On line

2. Near off line

3. Remote off line

4. Archival


On line is a RAID 1 type arraingement ( or simply using Carbon Copy Cloner to dupe to a second connected drive).


Near on line is copying a drive to a removable media (Hard Drive, Blu-Ray, Digital Tape, etc) and storing it on site.


Remote off line can be simply creating a duplicate set of your near on line material and storing it off site. Or, it can be using some sort of cloud storage system


Archival is putting your material on a media (or in a storage depot) that will last 30 or more years. This is NOT a hard drive nor any garden variety optical media.


The operating principle for data storage is simple - you need at least two copies (three is better) stored in different locations.


This is my set up -


I purchased two Voyager Q docks and enough hard drives to keep two complete backup copies of everything - 1 near on line and 1 off line (stored in an offsite secure place). These backups include all current projects on the computer plus years of previous work that I do not regularly reuse. Currently each backup set is ~ 8 TB. What this gives me is three copies of current projects and two copies of finished projects.


One variation on this strategy is get something like the Promise Pegasis RAID or Caldigit HDOne and set it up as a RAID 5. This will give data integrity for the on-line and reduces the need for a set of on site storage as long as your needs can be accommodated by its storage capacity. Once you exceed it, you're back in the same position of needing a backup set on site as well as the off site stuff.


You want to be in the position of - if the computer fries the drives, you loose no more than a day's work. If the studio burns, you have a backup off site and loose no more than a week's work. If a nuclear bomb goes off, it won't matter where anything is stored as it's highly unlikely you'll be around anyway.


Cheers,


x


edit: keep in mind, none of this will protect you from corrupted files if you copy the corrupted file to your backup ...

May 22, 2012 10:24 AM in response to Studio X

Thank you @Stuidio X for your approach and the detail provided in this response. I've read several of your replies on this topic from 2009 forward, and was glad to see this one as it is quite helpful to current choices. Many thanks.


- Question about RAID 5 -- my fastest connection to external storage at this point is Firewire800. I'd like to get another year ouf life of my current iMac 24" (2009) with 8GB RAM and see what comes from Apple later this fall for hardware. I don't think I can alter the ports to create an eSATA option can I? Anyway, given this... Is RAID 5 via FireWire 800 suitable for editing current FCP-X 1080p projects (generated from Nikon D800 events), as well as being the on-line backup? I assume I will need to keep the RAID 5 in a "constant-on" state.


- Question about starting and adding storage: Say I start with a 4TB RAID 5. My burn rate for storage is going to fill the "75% available" capacity in about a year. Which RAID 5 systems would allow for upgrading to 8TB? Or is it just easier to add another 4TB RAID-5 box?


- What do you suggest for simple, constant backup to an HDD that is then designated as the Remote Off Line backup storage device for this scenario?


Cheers,

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