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May 18, 2012 4:51 PM in response to Adam Woodhamsby Kappy,How to run hardware diagnostics for an Intel Mac
Boot from your original OS X Installer Disc One that came with your computer. After the chime press and hold down the "D" key until the diagnostic screen appears. Run the extended tests for a minimum of two or three hours. If any error messages appear note them down as you will need to report them to the service tech when you take the computer in for repair.
Some "common" error indicators:
SNS - sensor error
MEM - memory error
HDD - hard disk drive error
MOT - fan error
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May 18, 2012 5:20 PM in response to Kappyby Adam Woodhams,Kappy wrote:
How to run hardware diagnostics for an Intel Mac
Boot from your original OS X Installer Disc One that came with your computer. After the chime press and hold down the "D" key until the diagnostic screen appears.
Tried that & it doesn't work.
The only way I can see what the iMac is doing is through remote admin access aka screen sharing & when I boot from the installer discs eithe rteh machine wont show up to access or I just get a blank screen
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May 18, 2012 5:31 PM in response to Adam Woodhamsby Linc Davis,To run the AHT, you have to insert the "Applications" disc -- not the installation disc. You also have to disconnect all wired peripherals except keyboard and mouse, if applicable. The test is completely independent of the operating system. If you're doing everything right and the test still won't run, then you do have a hardware fault.
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May 18, 2012 5:32 PM in response to Adam Woodhamsby Kappy,Either you don't have the original installer disc for the computer or are using one from a different model, or you aren't booting from Disc One, or the disc is bad or dirty, or your is a model that had the AHT installed on the hard drive and you've repartitioned the drive which wiped out the AHT partition.
I guess you might be stuck with having to take it in for service to have the hardware checked.
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May 18, 2012 6:03 PM in response to Linc Davisby Adam Woodhams,Linc Davis wrote:
To run the AHT, you have to insert the "Applications" disc -- not the installation disc. You also have to disconnect all wired peripherals except keyboard and mouse, if applicable. The test is completely independent of the operating system. If you're doing everything right and the test still won't run, then you do have a hardware fault.
No, depending on the original OS the machine came with the AHT is on disc one or two.
In may case it's on disc one as it's a pre-10.4 machine.
The problem is teh only way I can 'see' if the disc or AHT is running is through screen sharing. When I try to mount the disc the machine doesn't show on the network.
Is there another hardware test application our there that I can run? Other than the TechTool.
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May 18, 2012 6:07 PM in response to Kappyby Adam Woodhams,Kappy wrote:
Either you don't have the original installer disc for the computer
Yes I do.
or are using one from a different model,
No I'm not.
or you aren't booting from Disc One
I am
or the disc is bad or dirty
Nope, all good
or your is a model that had the AHT installed on the hard drive and you've repartitioned the drive which wiped out the AHT partition.
Zero chance of that.
I guess you might be stuck with having to take it in for service to have the hardware checked.
Beyond doubt but I want to establish what the fault likely is first.
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May 18, 2012 6:41 PM in response to Adam Woodhamsby Linc Davis,In may case it's on disc one as it's a pre-10.4 machine.
You said your machine came with 10.5. If you're trying to boot from an older disc, you're wasting your time.
Screen sharing won't work while the AHT is running. Anyway, it doesn't matter. The test wouldn't tell you anything you don't already know, which is that you have a hardware fault; probably this one:
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May 18, 2012 7:47 PM in response to Linc Davisby Adam Woodhams,Linc Davis wrote:
In may case it's on disc one as it's a pre-10.4 machine.
You said your machine came with 10.5.
Sorry, typo, I meant 10.5.4
10.5.5 was when the AHT switched to residing on Disc 2.
If you're trying to boot from an older disc, you're wasting your time.
Well that brings up a bigger question. Assuming my screen was working & I needed to run AHT on this machine how would I do it?
I have no doubt that it has some sort of fault but I'm trying to establish what before I take it in. If it looks to be a major $1000+ type of issue then I won't even bother paying the money to have it benched & diagnosed. At least if I know what's wrong I may be able to get a ballpark figure on repair costs.
Thanks for teh link but the machine is an iMac, not a MBP.
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May 18, 2012 8:47 PM in response to Adam Woodhamsby Linc Davis,Assuming my screen was working & I needed to run AHT on this machine how would I do it?
I think that's been covered. You would insert the disc and reboot with the D key held down.
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May 18, 2012 9:03 PM in response to Linc Davisby ds store,Hey Linc,
Got a guy who installed rEFIt into his Lion EFI and now he can't boot into OS X or BootCamp, neither can he reinstall Lion.
His EFI is borked, he tried deleting the EFI folder but likely go the wrong one and had rebooted 5 times to no avail.
He doesn't have a backup of his data, either out of OS X or Windows.
He can boot from Recovery, I gave a long winded speech about installing Lion on a external drive and doing data recovery efforts and erasing the entire drive and reverse cloning.
He seems not to be terminal shy, so perhaps you know of a way for him to delete the EFI folder that's causing the problem and allow him to use the earlier version, reboot twice and that could solve his issue.
Take a look and help the fellow out, I've tortured him pretty good for trying to install Linux on a Mac.
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May 18, 2012 9:31 PM in response to Linc Davisby Adam Woodhams,I think that's been covered. You would insert the disc and reboot with the D key held down.
Seems that users with pre-Lion machines are having mixed results with that working as expected.
Of interest I just went into the System Profiler for the blacked-out machine & under the 'Display' button it says 'No displays detected' and in the detailed section under 'Graphics/Displays' it says 'No information found'...
As this machine uses a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS which is known to be somewhat dodgy I wonder if that's the cause.
Anyway, I've booked a Genius slot for tomorrow, will see where we get to.