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Joseph Coates Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

In other discusson forums, I would deleate the whole thing and repost. But here, you can't. So what do we do here when that happens?

  • deggie Level 8 Level 8 (48,895 points)

    Post the thread here and let the moderators handle it.

  • Zack T. Community Hosts Community Hosts (1,295 points)

    As deggie suggested, post the thread in here and we'll take a look at it. Thanks.

  • Joseph Coates Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Zack T.   -

     

    The thing is, he really is not breaking any rules. Just one of those  types that has to reply to posts thinking he knows the answer but drifts off topic and says stuff (but nothing rude or bad) that really does not help at all. Not a - troll? (sorry, I am not such an expert at the terms) just a wayward (lonely) soul type. Annoying.

     

    A comparison would be if a question was posted asking about a hardware glitch on a Mac and this guy starts talking about using solutions that would not help with the problem at all but just starts off in that direction, for the sake of talking. It seems…

     

    This is not an issue of enforcement. I'd like to deleate my post and start over. But we can't? We have no control over discussions we originate?

     

    I'm a level one here but, have used the Mac since 1985. Maybe he thinks I don't know anything and he needs to show off but, I actually know way to much!

  • capaho Level 4 Level 4 (3,650 points)
  • Joseph Coates Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    capaho -

     

    Thanks for demonstrating the problem/questions of this original post. I have no need for points. I expressed no desire on how to get points. But somehow, you felt compelled to add a brief blurb - or whatever that was that you posted - on earning points. Why?

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (29,745 points)

    If you are referring to the following discussion:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/18448587#18448587

     

    ...then it seems to me that he was attempting to help.  Your response seems a bit ungracious.

  • capaho Level 4 Level 4 (3,650 points)

    The point system is the main reason why there is excessive posting, including too much OT posting, in these forums.  If you had read the thread I referenced first before questioning me about it you would have understood that.

  • Joseph Coates Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    capaho -

     

    That is indeed a good thing to add to the conversation, may explain part or much of why what I originaly posted happens, and I do appreciate that observation very much.

     

    But why not say in your first reply “The point system is the main reason why there is excessive posting, including too much OT posting, in these forums.”?

     

    Just posting a link, as your first reply did, really does not do much (irrespective of my reading it and hopefully deducing what you actually meant - a terrific comment).

  • Michael Black Level 6 Level 6 (17,950 points)

    It is a community forum.  Just as you cannot control the discussion or an individuals choice of words in a room full of people, you do not have any control over other forum members and their responses here.  Everyone here, within the rules and terms of use, is free to post what they choose to, just as any crowd of people can say what they wish in an open discussion.  Also keep in mind that there are people from all over the world here, and often english is not their first language, so you may be mis-interpreting what they were trying to say.

     

    Also, this is a free support forum, so you get whats ya' pays for - sometimes a great deal, sometimes, less so.

  • Joseph Coates Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Thomas A Reed -

     

    Ultimately, I am  not refering to any specific discussion but to my experience here and at other forums (which generally allow members to edit or deleat posts).

     

    I am not sure what about my reply in the link you posted in your reply here is ungracious? Indeed, I would say that it is actually kind of ungracious that you would take the time to search my posts and choose that one and then say I was ungracious. Your reply is the meta example of OT posting, posting. IMHO

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7 (29,745 points)

    That was the only recent topic of yours that seemed to match your description.  Both the title of this topic and your description seem to suggest you were referring to a specific incident.  If that was not the case, I apologize.

  • Joseph Coates Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Michael Black -

     

    I totally agree with all you say. It is not my goal to control but, as I say in the original post, start over with a better worded post to avoid the problem entirely. Well, hopefully avoid it. I have made posts on forums and years later, had a one and only very odd and typically OT reply! So one never knows.

     

    Concerning English: It is my native tongue and even I botch it up all the time!

     

    Plus whatever that thing is called concerning email, places like this, where you type something and people get it all wrong. Including me typing and reading. Lack of in the flesh visible cues? Not knowing irony, etc. (not everybody does, you know?)

     

    Americans are also pretty casual (or Europeans and other cultures are pretty formal - take your pick) using first names and being less formal in conversation which, does not always translate well in forums and emails. Maybe that is also at play here; OT additions or non sequiturs are a casualness found in online culture…

  • Michael Black Level 6 Level 6 (17,950 points)

    You are free to start a new post of course.  But your time to edit an existing post is limited, and once that time pases, it is uneditable.

     

    Given the rate of new posts here, your old one will usually get buried beyond anyones line of sight in a fairly short time, so go ahead and just start your thread afresh.

  • Joseph Coates Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Michael Black -

     

    Yes, this is what I thought. Of course, that fix it clock is too short and replies end up hitting the post after the timer goes off.

     

    Burried is right. That is another problem here. Too much. I also often find my answer faster to problems simply by searching on Google than searching here.

     

    Apple's search method/mechanism here is one I have never understood and produces a lot of results that do not seem to be relevant to what one is looking for. I find this true in Apple Mail and in the OS search options too. Eudora mail search was always brililant and spot on. I also use Launch Bar for searching my drives now. Now I am off topic!

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