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Recovery HD (Mac) vs Recovery Disk (thumb drive)?

What is the difference between the Recovery Disk on the thumb drive and the Recovery HD on the Mac? In what situations would you use each one?

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.3)

Posted on May 24, 2012 1:19 PM

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Posted on May 24, 2012 1:22 PM

They are the same because the Lion Recovery Disk Assistant installs on the flash drive what is installed on the computer. If there were no Recovery HD on the computer, then the assistant will produce an error.

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May 24, 2012 1:50 PM in response to Kappy

Three questions now:


1) How do you test your hard drive, and


2)When you might boot with disk utility (option key at startup), it will normally give you an option of Mactintosh HD, Recovery HD, and the USB thumb drive (if you have made one and inserted it into the computer). In that scenario, would you boot from the Recovery HD or the flash drive that you had made since they are basically the same? and


3) Is pressing the option key at startup and booting to the Recovery HD the same as pressing Command-R on your keyboard? Do they achieve the same purpose?

May 24, 2012 2:11 PM in response to MrWinBy5

On the computer itself:


Boot to the Recovery HD:


Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.

Using the USB flash drive:


  1. Insert USB drive into a USB port.
  2. Restart the computer.
  3. Immediately after the chime press and hold down the "OPTION" key.
  4. Release the key when the boot manager appears.
  5. Select the Recovery HD icon on the USB device.
  6. Click on the arrow button below the icon.


EDIT:


As Baltwo has suggested you can make a fully bootable Lion installer:


Make Your Own Lion Installer


1. After downloading Lion you must first save the Install Mac OS X Lion application. After Lion downloads DO NOT click on the Install button. Go to your Applications folder and make a copy of the Lion installer. Move the copy into your Downloads folder. Now you can click on the Install button. You must do this because the installer deletes itself automatically when it finishes installing Lion.


2. Get a USB flash drive that is at least 8 GBs. Prep this flash drive as follows:


  1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder.
  2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
  3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
  4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
  5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
  6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.


3. Locate the saved Lion installer in your Downloads folder. CTRL- or RIGHT-click on the installer and select Show Package Contents from the contextual menu. Double-click on the Contents folder to open it. Double-click on the SharedSupport folder. In this folder you will see a disc image named InstallESD.dmg.


4. Plug in your freshly prepared USB flash drive. You are going to clone the InstallESD.dmg disc image to the flash drive as follows:


  1. Open Disk Utility.
  2. Select the USB flash drive from the left side list.
  3. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
  4. Check the box labeled Erase destination.
  5. Select the USB flash drive volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
  6. Drag the InstallESD.dmg disc image file into the Source entry field.
  7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.

When the clone is completed you have a fully bootable Lion installer that you can use without having to re-download Lion.


The catch here is you must have a copy of the Lion installer application. If you downloaded Lion from the App Store and installed it, then it was automatically deleted after the installation. That means you need to sign into the App Store while running Snow Leopard to redownload Lion for free.


If your computer came with Lion pre-installed then there is no obvious way to get the installer application needed. This will necessitate using the methods outlined in Downloading Hardware Specific Lion Installers to obtain the installer.

May 24, 2012 2:04 PM in response to MrWinBy5

Some clarifications. If you follow the steps in http://www.macworld.com/article/161069/2011/07/make_a_bootable_lion_installer.ht ml. you'll end up with a bootable Lion install disk. The Recovery HD doesn't contain the Lion installer, while the one made this way does, except for some additional components. The key is using the InstallESD disk image to make the bootable disk. The Recovery HD, while bootable, needs to download the 3.6 GB installer app from the MAS, whereas the bootable disk you make contains the installer, saving bandwidth, time, and electricity. I don't use slow USB drives, preferring to restore the InstallESD image to 10 GB volumes on my HDs. That way, restoring only wastes about three minutes checking for the additional components.

May 25, 2012 4:36 AM in response to MrWinBy5

MrWinBy5 wrote:


Just one more question: Why would it be necessary to install the Lion Recovery on your thumb drive if it is all ready on the computer?

There could be situation where the internal drive could have problems.

Booting to the thumb drive and running disk utility can help troubleshoot.

Also, something can just corrupt the internal drive preventing it from

booting requiring you to boot to the thumb drive and do a complete

format of the internal and reinstall.

Jun 18, 2013 10:55 AM in response to Kappy

I've got the thumb drive formatted and am ready to put a Lion installer on it, but all the descriptions begin AFTER one has downloaded the "Install OSX Lion" from the App store. I can only find Mountain Lion on the App store, and I do, actually, already have Lion on this very computer.


Why do I have to download anything? But if I do, where do I find what I need.

(MBP Retina, OSX 10.7.5)

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