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Q: Need to do an installation that involves four devices: an ADSL modem, a Linksys wireless router, the Airport Extreme station WITH its respective reception base. How do I accomplish this, in order to have internet routed to the Apple small receiver end?

Situation is...

 

I was asked to do this installation.


ADSL Modem

Linksys Router (WRT160N)

AirPort Extreme A1408

AirPort small receiver base (A1264)

 

The client is complaining that the internet can't reach the small receiver.

 

I have done wireless installations in this fashion:

 

ADSL Modem (set to bridge mode with PPPoE authentication)

Linksys Router set to DHCP mode and broadcasting the internet wirelessly

 

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I wanted to know, how will it be with AirPort... if I need the LinkSys Router.... or If I need to do any configuration on the small receiver (A1264)

 

and...

 

Want to know why my potential client is complaining about the "lamp" from the small receiver which is not getting lit.

(He wants to use the Airport as a AMPLIFIER towards the next house, small receiver will be there).

 

Please any help on this will be very appreciated.

Posted on May 29, 2012 8:58 AM

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  • by Tesserax,

    Tesserax Tesserax May 29, 2012 10:43 AM in response to d.bar
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    May 29, 2012 10:43 AM in response to d.bar

    To potentially satisfy your client's goals, the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn) would need to be connected to the Linksys router by Ethernet, and then, the 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn) and the AEBSn can be configured for an extended network. Note: For this configuration to work, the AEBSn would also need to be reconfigured as a bridge (Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode))

  • by d.bar,

    d.bar d.bar May 29, 2012 11:24 AM in response to Tesserax
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    May 29, 2012 11:24 AM in response to Tesserax

    Ok,

     

    So, is it something like this:

     

    Modem (bridge + pppoe) -->-cable->- Router ->-cable-> AEBSn (WAN or LAN?) ----wireless----> AXn

     

    Modes:

    Modem - BRIDGE + PPPOE

    Router - DHCP

    AEBSn - BRIDGE

    AXn - (left alone by itself)

     

    Is that alright? Will it work?

     

    Can the AEBSn work as a router like Linksys (eg. replacing LinkSys) and be done this way:

     

    Modem (Bridge + pppoe) -->Cable>-- AEBSn (DHCP) - - - - -> AXn wireless?

     

     

     

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    How far can go the sign from AEBSn to AXn?

    Does it amplify the routers signal indeed?

     

     

    Thanks

  • by HACKINT0SH,

    HACKINT0SH HACKINT0SH May 29, 2012 12:47 PM in response to d.bar
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    May 29, 2012 12:47 PM in response to d.bar

    I am not sure why we need the linksys in this equation at all?

  • by Tesserax,

    Tesserax Tesserax May 29, 2012 6:22 PM in response to d.bar
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    May 29, 2012 6:22 PM in response to d.bar

    Modem (bridge + pppoe) -->-cable->- Router ->-cable-> AEBSn (WAN or LAN?) ----wireless----> AXn

    Actually, when in bridge mode, all of the Ethernet ports on the AEBSn are just that, Ethernet port. It really doesn't matter which port (WAN or LAN) you connect the Linksys to. However, I would recommend the WAN port for consistency.

     

    Modes:

    Modem - BRIDGE + PPPOE

    Router - DHCP

    AEBSn - BRIDGE

    AXn - (left alone by itself)

    The AXn would be configured to extend the AEBSn using the link I provided earlier.

  • by d.bar,

    d.bar d.bar May 31, 2012 3:16 PM in response to Tesserax
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    May 31, 2012 3:16 PM in response to Tesserax

    Hi Tesserax,

     

    Ok, I can do this installation, no problem....

     

    What concerns me is the range that the Apple devices can be away from each other and still work ok...  It is intended to place the Base station a house next door from the Express station. Funny enough, Linksys devices are told to support a wireless range link of 500 meters; and it's not working with the router alone. That's why the Apple device is coming into play. Will it certainly boost the signal to the next building or there are chances something may go wrong? How far can Airport kit operate from each other?

     

    Thanks for any replies, please respond ASAP.

     

     

    @Hackintosh: Can I just dismiss the linksys router if something goes wrong?

  • by Tesserax,

    Tesserax Tesserax May 31, 2012 7:40 PM in response to d.bar
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    May 31, 2012 7:40 PM in response to d.bar

    Funny enough, Linksys devices are told to support a wireless range link of 500 meters; and it's not working with the router alone.

    A 500 meter range for a consumer router, even in free space, would be highly unlikely. I would expect you would be lucky to get a useable signal at 100 meters. By "useable" I mean a signal that can support a bandwidth of 54 Mbps or better.

     

    It's important to understand that although the Express will "boost" the signal level, it will only repeat that signal with the bandwidth that it receives it. Typically you will want to place the extending AirPort within a 25+dB SNR (Signal-to-Noise Ratio) range of the station that it is extending. SNR does decrease with range and will depend on a number of factors that are introducing signal noise into the environment. Based on experience, I would say the average distance the extending base station would be is within 15-30 meters of the extended station to still provide a useable signal.

  • by d.bar,

    d.bar d.bar Jun 1, 2012 3:44 AM in response to Tesserax
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    Jun 1, 2012 3:44 AM in response to Tesserax

    Thanks Tesserax,

     

    If everything goes wrong, what to do?

    Do you recommend that the client purchases a long range antenna to fetch the link, from the receiving end; and use only the Linksys Router?

     

    What's Apple's device dBi support?

  • by Tesserax,

    Tesserax Tesserax Jun 1, 2012 8:34 AM in response to d.bar
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    Jun 1, 2012 8:34 AM in response to d.bar

    Do you recommend that the client purchases a long range antenna to fetch the link, from the receiving end; and use only the Linksys Router?

    For these types of distances, you may want to consider a point-to-point type solution. You can find a number of them here.