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Time Machine always requires deep traversal?

Hi all-


For the tl;dr crowd: every time my Mac Pro starts a backup, it does a deep traversal (this has gone on for about two months since I got the drive). I'm backing up to a 2TB USB external drive that is always connected. I've added the backup drive to Spotlight's exclude/privacy list. Yesterday I rebooted the machine using the OSX installation disk and performed disk repairs on both the system drive and the backup drive (neither was found to have any errors). I don't have clamXav or any other AV installed. What else can I try to avoid the deep traversal? Here are the console logs for two back-to-back backups (note that these are just before I got into the office, so I don't think user interaction is forcing the deep traversal):


5/31/12 6:53:32 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
Starting standard backup
5/31/12 6:53:33 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb
5/31/12 6:55:00 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:contains changes|must scan subdirs|fsevent|
5/31/12 6:57:11 AM
_spotlight[5455]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 6:57:11 AM
_spotlight[5460]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 6:57:21 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
No pre-backup thinning needed: 1.87 GB requested (including padding), 1.36 TB available
5/31/12 6:57:23 AM
_spotlight[5466]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 6:57:23 AM
_spotlight[5471]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 6:57:23 AM
_spotlight[5476]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 6:57:23 AM
_spotlight[5481]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 6:57:34 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
Copied 2085 files (17.3 MB) from volume Snow Leopard.
5/31/12 6:59:02 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:contains changes|must scan subdirs|fsevent|
5/31/12 7:01:05 AM
_spotlight[5498]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:01:05 AM
_spotlight[5503]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:01:13 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
No pre-backup thinning needed: 1.87 GB requested (including padding), 1.36 TB available
5/31/12 7:01:15 AM
_spotlight[5508]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:01:15 AM
_spotlight[5513]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:01:15 AM
_spotlight[5518]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:01:15 AM
_spotlight[5523]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:01:26 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
Copied 2085 files (16.9 MB) from volume Snow Leopard.
5/31/12 7:02:57 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
Starting post-backup thinning
5/31/12 7:32:41 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
Deleted backup /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/warp/2012-05-29-143904: 1.36 TB now available
5/31/12 7:32:41 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
Post-back up thinning complete: 1 expired backups removed
5/31/12 7:32:42 AM
com.apple.backupd[5425]
Backup completed successfully.
5/31/12 7:53:33 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
Starting standard backup
5/31/12 7:53:33 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb
5/31/12 7:55:13 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:contains changes|must scan subdirs|fsevent|
5/31/12 7:57:26 AM
_spotlight[5735]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:57:26 AM
_spotlight[5740]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:57:35 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
No pre-backup thinning needed: 1.87 GB requested (including padding), 1.36 TB available
5/31/12 7:57:37 AM
_spotlight[5745]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:57:37 AM
_spotlight[5750]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:57:37 AM
_spotlight[5755]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:57:37 AM
_spotlight[5760]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 7:57:48 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
Copied 2085 files (18.9 MB) from volume Snow Leopard.
5/31/12 7:59:15 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:contains changes|must scan subdirs|fsevent|
5/31/12 8:01:24 AM
_spotlight[5778]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 8:01:24 AM
_spotlight[5783]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 8:01:32 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
No pre-backup thinning needed: 1.87 GB requested (including padding), 1.36 TB available
5/31/12 8:01:34 AM
_spotlight[5788]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 8:01:34 AM
_spotlight[5793]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 8:01:34 AM
_spotlight[5798]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 8:01:34 AM
_spotlight[5803]
vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found
5/31/12 8:01:43 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
Copied 2085 files (18.9 MB) from volume Snow Leopard.
5/31/12 8:03:15 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
Starting post-backup thinning
5/31/12 8:31:33 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
Deleted backup /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/warp/2012-05-29-123915: 1.36 TB now available
5/31/12 8:31:33 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
Post-back up thinning complete: 1 expired backups removed
5/31/12 8:31:35 AM
com.apple.backupd[5706]
Backup completed successfully.


The long version: in March I got a 2TB USB external drive to back up the Mac Pro at my work. I've had good success with Time Machine at home, backing up two MacBooks and a Mac Mini with no problems what-so-ever (it really "just works"), so I was surprised when Time Machine struggled with the Mac Pro. I did a lot of research on the web, and followed as much advice as I could (excluding the backup drive from Spotlight, making sure backups completed uninterrupted, repairing drives, etc.), but I continue to have backups that take almost a full hour (and thus Time Machine is almost constantly running). The actual quantity of data backed up is pretty small (similar to the log above, it's usually 20-50 MB).


During my initial backup I ran into a problem with Git which may be pertitent, but I'm not sure. I was in charge of my company's conversion from Subversion to Git, and in the process I locally cloned a bunch of Git repositories (on the order of 300-400 repos). Since Git uses hard links between local clones, this all fit on my 500GB drive no problem. But Time Machine attempted to back up each directory independently, and the backup ballooned to over 2.5TB and didn't fit on the 2TB external drive. After I excluded the Git repos from the backup, the intial backup completed without any visible problems.


Otherwise the machine is used for pretty standard software development (python, gcc, gdb, git), plus standard office email/web browsing.


I've been digging into this on and off since I first noticed the problem shortly after getting the drive and I'm running out of ideas. Anyone have additional suggestions on how to avoid the deep traversal? Let me know if there's additional useful information I've left out.


Thanks!

Stephen

Mac Pro (Mid 2010), Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on May 31, 2012 6:23 AM

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Posted on May 31, 2012 6:03 PM

Stephen Bash wrote:

. . .

5/31/12 6:55:00 AM com.apple.backupd[5425] Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:contains changes|must scan subdirs|fsevent|
...
5/31/12 6:59:02 AM com.apple.backupd[5425] Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:contains changes|must scan subdirs|fsevent|

That's curious. I've rarely seen those reason codes; it looks like there was a very large volume of file system changes, but that usually sends a different message.


Even stranger, it's doing a deep traversal on both passes of the same backup. I don't recall seeing that before, either, so I suspect a problem with the File System Event Store, the hidden log of file changes that OSX keps on each volume. TM normally uses it to see what needs to be backed-up, instead of the deep traversal.


Are you running any apps that routinely make many, many changes to the file system (files or folders added, changed, moved, renamed, etc.)?


5/31/12 7:01:05 AM _spotlight[5503] vol.notice /usr/fl/etc/volume.cfg not found

Spotlight is also very unhappy about whatever that is. I don't have an fl folder in my /usr folder, so have no idea what it is, or whether that's connected to the Time Machine problem, but it sure looks suspicious.


Any idea what it is?

174 replies

Nov 12, 2012 6:14 PM in response to bernuli

Ok. I have no idea what that is, but here it is:


total 10024

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Nov 12, 2012 6:22 PM in response to gogogut

gogogut wrote:

. . .

Hard Drive/Library/Preferences has 78 items, 58 of which are plists dating back to when I purchased the macbook.

Sounds normal.



There are also weird "Document" files with names like "com.apple.alf.plist~orig".

Those can be deleted. So can anything of zero bytes. But they're unlikely to be causing a Time Machine problem.



user/Library/Preferences has 456 items, 396 of which are plists.

Sounds normal.



There are also lots of preferences and files titled something like "cfx#1viKJTD". ByHost folder has 108 items, all but 2 of which are plists. Some have weird names like "com.apple.preference.internet.6119EFA9-05D1-5A52-8891-C448B31E2443.plist". The other 2 files are "cfx#0yWLPMC" and "cfx#M6sHHb6".

The weird ones can probably be deleted. Check the size and date modified. But they're unlikely to be causing a Time Machine problem.


The only things I have not done is uninstall Sophos Antivirus and relaunch the Finder. I do not have the AV set to scan except when I tell it to; plus it isn't working right now since I ran some genermal maintenance with Onyx (I'll figure that one out later or just delete it).

If you're sure it isn't doing anything, it's unlikely to be the problem. Most Mac users don't have or need any anti-virus, so I'm not up on which ones are how bad. The free ClamXav is reliably reported to be as good as any, and less intrusive than most. SeeThomas Reed's Mac Malware Guide.


I didn't think Finder relaunch would matter since I restart my computer all the time. Should I relaunch it anyways?

Probably not.


I am also not sure how to determine if my external drive has a spin down feature. This drive used to work perfectly so I think not.

Check with the maker -- either whatever info came with it, or their website. But it's doubtful that's the problem here.




109.89 kb backed up.

MacHD = 93.48kB

.exclusions.plist = 13.35kB

.Backup.log = 3.06kB

.com.apple.TMCheckpoint = 0kB

Within MacHD:

Users = 61.45kB --> user folder has .DS_Store = 39.94kB and Library with .DS_Store = 21.51kB

.DS_Store = 15.36kB

Library = 15.36kB --> with .DS_Store = 15.36kB

private = 1.30kB --> with "var" folder --> with db folder and samba folder

-db folder has .TimeMachine.Results.plist = 1.07kB

-samba folder has brose.dat = 231B

So, just a handful of actual files, nowhere near the 12,000 reported. 😟


That means the problem is not the .plist files.


Be sure to review items #15, 16, and 17 in the green box. Not mentioned under #17 is what a few folks on 10.6.8 have found -- installing a fresh copy of OSX, then only going back to 10.6.7 seems to have solved this problem.

Nov 12, 2012 6:32 PM in response to gogogut

What is happening here, is this. Time Machine uses a program called fseventsd to keep track of what folders have changed on your hard drive. For some reason, fseventds will get screwed up and think a whole slew of folders changed, when they didn't.


Time Machine goes to fseventsd and sees a folder has changed, so it backs it up, then goes looking for files that have actually changed. But none have. So you end up with a series of directorys being created for no reason. This takes time.


Clearing out the /.fseventsd folder will fix this, but I can't tell you the proper way to do this, other than booting into single user mode and running a command that if misstyped could easily delete everything on your hard drive. If you do try to do this, make sure your Time Machine disk is disconnected. and powered down, just to be extra sure.


I clear out .fseventds via single user mode every now and again when time machine starts slowing down.


AFAIK, this problem is 10.6.8 specific.



B

Nov 12, 2012 7:42 PM in response to gogogut

I am agreed with Bernuli - try booting into Safe mode and let it do its thing. This only worked temporarily for me, but it's certainly worth trying. If you get the same results as I did, you'll get probably a day of relatively clean, quick backups. I did the Single user mode thing, too, after the previous solution proved to be only short term. I would re-emphasize Bernuli's caution here: this is a potentially VERY dangerous endeavor, even though it involves only a single, quite short line of code. If you are as uncomfortable with command line work as you've indicated then this could be a bit intimidating as single-user mode is nothing but that. Try Safe mode first, and if that's unsuccessful then post back here for more info.

Nov 13, 2012 5:47 AM in response to BRumble

I did Safe Mode first thing this morning. Then restarted soon after and ran the Terminal prompt. Similar results to before, just a few more items (10064 instead of 10024). Should I have let my computer sit in Safe Mode for a while? Here it is:

total 10064

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-rw------- 1 root _unknown 13879 Nov 11 14:49 fc007496be1cc5ee

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 14498 Nov 11 16:08 fc007496be1dc4cf

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 11730 Nov 11 20:49 fc007496be1eb7eb

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 13486 Nov 11 21:58 fc007496be1f950e

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 8386 Nov 11 21:59 fc007496be205fa9

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 7047 Nov 11 21:59 fc007496be208b25

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 10442 Nov 11 22:45 fc007496be20bd47

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 12994 Nov 11 23:42 fc007496be3916e0

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 3434 Nov 12 08:42 fc007496be395866

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 13712 Nov 12 10:12 fc007496be478f62

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 12908 Nov 12 11:15 fc007496be48c44c

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 12200 Nov 12 19:10 fc007496be499fa2

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 14316 Nov 12 20:20 fc007496be4ad0e9

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 12388 Nov 12 22:08 fc007496be62dc41

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 6106 Nov 12 22:53 fc007496be6fcde7

-rw------- 1 root _unknown 2591 Nov 13 08:38 fc007496be702c9e

-rw------- 1 _unknown _unknown 36 Nov 13 08:38 fseventsd-uuid

Nov 13, 2012 6:43 AM in response to gogogut

Looks like the safe mode trick did not work.


Here is what I do to clear that directory. Try at your own risk.


Boot into SINGLE user mode. Hold down command s on boot.


After it is done booting there are 2 commands you need to run, it will tell you

/sbin/fsck -fy (I think)

and then /sbin/mount -uw / (I think)


type these commands ecactly as it is show on YOUR computer after booting into single user mode.


now to remove the .fseventsd directory type:


rm -rf /.fseventsd


then type:


shutdown -r now



NOTE that if you hit enter by mistake after the / in the rm command it will erase your entire hard drive (you can stop the destruction with control c if that ever happens)


after removing /.fseventsd , expect a very long Time Machine run. Next one after that should rip by.



B

Jan 22, 2013 1:24 AM in response to bernuli

Just to say that I have this issue too on 10.6.8. Backups were taking the best part of an hour (but were not involving a deep traversal) - I solved that by repairing the backup drive (a WD MyBook 2GB). Backups are now down to 20 minutes, but a deep traversal is occurring every time.


I checcked the directory using: sudo ls -l /.fseventsd


It finds 12696 files. Most are listed like: -rw------- 1 root admin 13061 28 May 2012 fc007473749b930d


I'm a little leery to delete the fsevents using single user mode.


For now, I've just adjusted the backup interval to 4 hours using the following command:


sudo defaults write /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.backupd-auto StartInterval -int 14400


From this hint: http://osxdaily.com/2012/02/02/change-the-time-machine-backup-schedule/


I can't upgrade to Lion/ML for two reasons:

1) I find the user interface far too sluggish. Expose/Mission Control is really jerky (<20 fps) on a large screen monitor (HD3000 only). It makes me feel motion sick.

2) I also run ONE proprietary PPC app that is without replacement.


Best, M

Jan 22, 2013 8:10 AM in response to ZX48

You have WAY too many files in /.fseventsd. If you simply boot into safe mode, I think it may fix itself.


I clear it out manually every 2 weeks. I notice faster boot times and quicker hard drive access after clearing.


Strange that you are experiencing the deep traversal after repairing. My recommendation is to turn TM off and then do the repair again. Or format the WD TM target and start over.





B

Jan 22, 2013 9:04 AM in response to ZX48

If you really wanted to upgrade to Lion, you could I think run 10.6 in VMware for your legacy PPC app. 10.6 in a VM probably may more trouble that it is worth for you but I wanted to throw that out there. I have done 10.7 in a VM and it works great as long as you have an excess of RAM available.


http://www.macworld.com/article/1163755/vmware_fusion_update_lets_users_virtuali ze_leopard_snow_leopard.html



B

Jan 23, 2013 4:27 AM in response to bernuli

I'm at home today. But I'll try safe boot tomorrow ehn back in the office. However, now that the backups only 20 mins, I don't want to do anything that might risk send them spiralling back to the hour-long state I had prior to repairing the backup disk!


Definitely on those previous slow backups, a dep traversal was not occurring, but Time machne was spending a long preparing and scanning and apparently backing up 30,000 files or more every hour regardless of changes. Once the copy started, most of the time it would get stuck on 1kb of xxxMB for at least 20 minutes, slowly slowly crawling forward. I came to this thread back then, and looked for the deep traversal message, but didn't see it.


Re: VMWare. (And off topic) I do indeed have that version of Fusion, and SL works great as a Lion VM (not sure about Mountain Lion?). But as I said, my mac mini with 2560x1440 really really struggles to do the Lion animations. It's terrible in my opinion. Of note, even my 2011 MacBook Pro with 1680x1050 display can't run the Lion anmations at 60fps when using the HD3000 once there are more than a couple of safari windows open. The animations in Lion are considerably less smooth/optimised then they were in Leopard and Snow Leopard. I frustrates me that Apple couldn't be bothered to optimise the drivers in Lion when they are the sole supplier of the hardware/software. It's inexcusable in my opinion when even the latest harware can't run the core animations smoothly. I went into a Apple store and the same is true of the 2012 MBPro model running ML - and these has the HD4000!


Anyway, off-topic rant over. Cheers for the input/ideas on TM and VMWare.

Jan 25, 2013 1:36 AM in response to ZX48

OK, I'm currently booted in Safe mode (it took quite a whiel to boot up). Just ran that same code in Terminal: total=12800


all listed are of the type:

-rw------- 1 root admin 13061 28 May 2012 fc007473749b930d


except 6 like:

-rw-------@ 1 root admin 75 15 Jan 09:22 fc007475e0664b5a


And 1 like:

-rw-------@ 1 root staff 36 25 Jan 09:24 fseventsd-uuid


Just about to reboot normally, but I suspect this trick has not worked.


What files is this a list of by the way? (I don't understnad Terminal coding much at all).

Jan 25, 2013 8:11 AM in response to ZX48

ZX48 wrote:

. . .

What files is this a list of by the way? (I don't understnad Terminal coding much at all).


Those are the files in the hidden File System Event Store, a log of changes to files and folders that OSX keeps on each disk/partition. It's what Time Machine, Spotlight, and some other processes use to find recent changes, so they don't have to examine every file on your system to see what's changed lately. See the blue box in How Time Machine works its Magic for more.


The last one (with the UUID) is an identifier -- if OSX finds a serious problem, it will delete and replace the Event Store, and give it a new UUID, so those other processes know it's incomplete. When Time Machine finds that, it will do a deep traversal, comparing everything on your system to the latest backup. You'll see the "Scanning xxxx items" on the TM prefs window when it's doing that (on Snow Leopard only).


We don't know just what's wrong with it, or any other way to fix it, other than deleting it.


So, Safe Boot hasn't fixed the problem.

Rats. 😟 That did seem to fix it for a number of folks.


All I can suggest is booting into single-user mode and deleting it via:


sudo rm -R /.fseventsd/*


The next backup will be a lengthy one (a deep traversal), but thereafter they should be quick.

Time Machine always requires deep traversal?

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