Difference between auxiliary track volume and send/bus

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Difference between auxiliary track volume and send/bus

I'm trying to take it easy on my laptop so I started using AUX tracks for compressors, eqs, etc. that I have on multiple tracks. However, I have a few questions.

When I add an aux track, it is added at -∞. I guess I don't completely understand its function. What is the difference between me pulling this up to 0 or changing the volumes in my original track?

With that in mind, I'm assuming (maybe wrongly) that if I want the full effect/volume to be sent that I set the send to 0 also (the little green circle that I pull up next to the send button).

Am I wrong in any of my logic? I'm just trying to figure out how this all affects volume and what not and what values to set these things at. I had my mix set at individual volumes that I liked. However, when I switched my tracks from all having an individual plug-in to sending them all to a bus, the volumes changed, even when I set the send and the aux track volume to 0.

I know I'm wrong somewhere here! I just don't know where! Can you guys help and point me to a fix and better understanding? Thank you.

Posted on Jun 2, 2012 8:17 AM

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Answer 1

Vacheto

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Jun 2, 2012 4:15 PM in response to TyBo

Hi,

Regarding the topic label "Difference between auxiliary track volume and send/bus" the answer is:

The Send is just send and the Aux volume is the Return, if you use the Aux channel as a system FX for instance (it is not the same if you route the audio track or instrument track to any Bus # via the Channel Strip Output select/slot which is set to "1-2" by default).

As you see there are a few kinds of mixing setups when you use FX as Inserts or additional audio routings as sends output select/slot which are routed to a given Bus/Aux.

Here are a few examples:

1. If you use a send on any track, then you duplicate the audio path using the original track audio routed to the master and the send (Aux) which is routed to the master (1-2 for instance). This scenario is used for “System FX” like system reverb, delay etc. There are two send modes “Post & Pre” regarding the dry & went ratio (refer to the manual).

2. You can set/route the Channel Strip output select (Output slot 1-2) to any Bus/Aux # which will behave as a SERIAL routing (in this scenario you do not duplicate the original audio path), so you can look at this routing as one complex serial channel strip (you can insert compressors and other processors which will behave as Insert FX units etc.

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A.G

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TyBo Author

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Jun 4, 2012 9:32 AM in response to Vacheto

@Vacheto, I'm not completely following.

Are these the two methods you were talking about? I originally had it like the first picture. I'm still really confused though. The second way seems to defeat my purpose because I can only set one bus as my channel output.

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Vacheto

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Jun 4, 2012 11:39 AM in response to TyBo

Are these the two methods you were talking about?

Yes these are the methods with one note ony !

In the 1st picture the chennel strip sends are routed to Bus 1 - so far so good. But what I see is that you have inserted an EQ on the system Aux which is not so good. In this scenario the chanel strip audio path is dubplicated (one is passing thru the channel strip out 1-2 and the other is splited thru the channel strip Send Knob->Bus->Aux-> Out 1-2 so you EQ the Send path only - OK?

In this scenario you can insert Reverb, Delay, Chorus etc and use them as calssical system FX so the duplicated "send" path just adds some system FX (note the Aux FX plugin must be set to 100% Wet) so you add wet signal to the dry path. You can correct your 1st setup and insert Reveb for instance. After that you can control the reverb abount for each channel strip using the channel strip send knob(s) (currently they all are set to 0dB).

When you want to use say an EQ or Compressor etc then your second setup is OK ! In the second picture you have grouped the chanel strip outputs to one bus/aux so all inserted plugins there will behave as Group "Insert" ones (no duplicated paths here). The second setup is used with say violin, vocal winds group summed to an Aux where you want to EQ, Compress, Pan … the whole group etc.

A.G

www.audiogrocery.com

Author of: Logic GUI Deluxe (Free),

Vox De Bulgaria - s.a.g.e vocal pack for RMX,

Logic Snapshot Console,

RMX Power CTRL - Logic Environment Midi editor for Stylus etc.

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