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JgLichMan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

My computer is set up with a network drive that does not allow for the new feature "versions" to function properly. I guess at some point a window popped up and asked if I wanted to save anyway and I clicked the "do not show message again" and cancel. Well it has remembered my choice to not show this message again but now it just permanently overwrites and saves text files when I close them without even hesitating. So 10 minutes ago I had a very important file open and accidentally modified it, I was done with the file but did not want to save it so instead of undoing I just closed the file. This new system has completely overwritten the file with this new version and when I reopen it there are no undo options or previous versions available to restore. How do I turn this stupid feature off?

  • 1. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (226,765 points)

    OS X Lion- About Auto Save and Versions

     

    If you wish to save as a different document then use the Duplicate option under the File menu. Then select Save for the duplicate. You may now save it in a different location and/or a different filename.

     

    If you utilize versions properly you can always recover earlier versions of the document.

  • 2. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    JgLichMan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have been looking at that link for the last hour or so... And nope, I do not want to duplicate it, I simply want to turn it off completely and be able to close the file without it automatically saving the current "version."

     

    I should clarify that this is a work computer that has network drives and for whatever reason these drives do not allow versions to work at all. When I first updated to Lion it stated this in a pop-up window. I checked the "Do not show this message again" box and closed it and now it is doing what I really need it not to do.

     

    Does anyone know how I could reset my Versions or Auto-save preferences so that this window will pop up again?

  • 3. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (226,765 points)

    Then use an editor that doesn't support Versions and Auto-Save. Not all editors support the feature. Most will not unless they were recently released since the release of Lion. Same for other applications you may use. None of Office 2011 support it, for example.

     

    There is no preference for Versions and Auto-Save nor any definitive way to disable it. If you do a Google search you will find suggestions for things to do that may modify behavior somewhat, but I've not tried any of them.

  • 4. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    JgLichMan wrote:

     

    Does anyone know how I could reset my Versions or Auto-save preferences so that this window will pop up again?

    Backup, erase and reinstall your system to a clean state.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • 5. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    JgLichMan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Wow thats freakin hilarious Pete! I mean wow, you must be a genius or something! I am just so amazed at how incredibly smart you are! Thanks sooooo much for your help!

  • 6. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    JgLichMan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Also, Kappy, I find it hard to believe that there is no possible way to turn this feature off. It must eat up a ton of hard-drive space if it is anything like Time-machine (I filled up a 500 gig drive in about a few weeks before I turned auto-backup off) There must be other people out there that want it off...

  • 7. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (226,765 points)

    Maybe so, but that's the way it is whether you wish to believe it or not. It eats up barely any disk space at all because only the changes are maintained and they do so in the document itself. It is nothing at all like Time Machine.

     

    You'd be surprised how much easier things are when you actually understand how they work and why they work that way. This includes Time Machine.

     

    So, I suggest you reinstall your system per the other person's suggestion. That will only take a few hours. Or you can do it my way which will only take you about 2 hours.

     

    Reinstalling Lion Without Erasing the Drive

     

    Boot to the Recovery HD: Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.

     

    Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions: Upon startup select Disk Utility from the main menu. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions as follows.

     

    When the recovery menu appears select Disk Utility. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list.  In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive.  If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the main menu.

     

    Reinstall Lion: Select Reinstall Lion and click on the Continue button.

     

    Note: You can also re-download the Lion installer by opening the App Store application. Hold down the OPTION key and click on the Purchases icon in the toolbar. You should now see an active Install button to the right of your Lion purchase entry. There are situations in which this will not work. For example, if you are already booted into the Lion you originally purchased with your Apple ID or if an instance of the Lion installer is located anywhere on your computer.


  • 8. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    JgLichMan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Well the two of you have been no help at all.

     

    There absolutely must be a way to redo the preferences and get that pop-up window back, even if YOU dont know how. Clicking that box enabled some line of code in some file somewhere and all I need to do is undo that change.

     

    Can anyone else with some more knowledge help me out?

     

    EDIT: Also as I stated this is a work computer, entirely hooked up through private servers, there is literally no local storage and I am not system admin and therefore am not able to reinstall Lion or set it up so that this feature works properly. It is simply not possible with our current configuration.

  • 9. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    Kappy Level 10 Level 10 (226,765 points)

    Why do you assume you haven't already gotten to most knowledgable advice? Is it because you aren't getting the answer you want?

     

    Amazing!

  • 10. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    JgLichMan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    No it is because you are the only person who has replied and you are saying something that cant possibly be true.

     

    Are you really saying that you are the "most knowledgable" person on this subject? Cause that would not be egotistical at all.

  • 11. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (4,205 points)

    I replied, it is true, you do not wish to believe it, that is your problem. There is NO preference or option to turn it off. You don't want help, you just want to moan until someone lies and tells you there is a preference that doesn't exist. If you are so positive that there is then ring Apple and have it out with them and stop being so stubborn and looking like a fool.

     

    Pete

  • 12. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,365 points)

    JgLichMan wrote:

     

    Well the two of you have been no help at all.

     

    There absolutely must be a way to redo the preferences and get that pop-up window back, even if YOU dont know how. Clicking that box enabled some line of code in some file somewhere and all I need to do is undo that change.

     

    Can anyone else with some more knowledge help me out?

     

    EDIT: Also as I stated this is a work computer, entirely hooked up through private servers, there is literally no local storage and I am not system admin and therefore am not able to reinstall Lion or set it up so that this feature works properly. It is simply not possible with our current configuration.

    There is no other way that I know of either, you've had the correct advice, use something that does not support Autosave (i.e. any version of MS Office) and delve into your backups for an earlier version of the file.

  • 13. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    JgLichMan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Well after doing only a few more minutes of research I found this:

     

    http://www.formaceyesonly.com/2011/11/25/how-to-downgrade-lions-preview-and-text edit-to-snow-leopard-versions/

     

    So I would just like to say that as I expected, all three of you are not "the most knowledgable" sources of information on this topic. thank you. good day.

  • 14. Re: TextEdit Saving without asking
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,365 points)

    JgLichMan wrote:

     

    Well after doing only a few more minutes of research I found this:

     

    http://www.formaceyesonly.com/2011/11/25/how-to-downgrade-lions-preview-and-text edit-to-snow-leopard-versions/

     

    So I would just like to say that as I expected, all three of you are not "the most knowledgable" sources of information on this topic. thank you. good day.

    Post back when one of the likely problems (as stated in the article) arise. Good Day to you too.

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