Q: It was all working fine. Now when I try to use Apple TV, it can't find the date and time. I rebooted the Airport Extreme, but it's still the same spinning thing.

Assuming this is not the first time you have used your Apple TV

• You might try restarting the Apple TV by removing ALL the cables for 30 seconds.
• Also try restarting the router.
• If the problem persists, try a restore, you may want to try the previous procedures several times before doing this.

If this is a new Apple TV, it may also be that your network router is not allowing access to the timeserver, check that your router allows access over port 123.

Sorry to threadjack but the symptoms fit.

I'd appreciate an opinion on this. I am running ATV2. Everything in my house is GB cabled. All routers and switches are running the correct time, obtained from the router. I have two reserved IP addresses for the ATV, one for the wireless and one for the cabled mac address. I have manually opened all the ports that are mentioned in any thread in the forum. I have tried changing the DNS server, at present I have it set to Google's.

I have disconnected, reset, unplugged the thing ad nauseam. I have also tried shouting at it. This didn't have the desired effect.

The exasperating thing is that occasionally I get the time - sometimes. For instance I once got it by disconnecting the cable and letting it go wireless.

Another time, it got the time when I changed the IP address. I have even tried the HDMI thing that is recommended somewhere.

The only consistent result is that I never know what will work, and most things don't. Not repeatedly anyway.

Any innovative approach would be appreciated.