iPad polytonic greek keyboard doesn't have a circumflex?

I'm in an Ancient Greek class and I use my iPad for everything that I do at school. I was excited when I realized that the iOS supports Greek as an international keyboard! Additionally, I use a bluetooth keyboard, therefore I can utilize the "polytonic greek" hardware keyboard setting. This works much better for ancient greek.


Everything is great, however I can't seem to find the "circumflex" accent. This is very important to the language. As far as I know, there are only 3 accents (and 2 breath-marks) in koine greek. I thought it was weird that all of them are available except the circumflex.


After further investigation, I realized that the English keyboard has circumflex (alt + i), except this doesn't help me. A circumflex is positioned on top of a greek vowel. It wont let me select the circumflex under the English keyboard then switch over to Greek. Overall, I find it ironic that the English keyboard offers a circumflex (though we don't use it in our spelling) but the Greek keyboard doesn't have it (though it's a major part of their language).


Any help or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks!

iPad 2, iOS 5.1.1

Posted on Jun 8, 2012 1:45 PM

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Jun 8, 2012 2:50 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

I think you're referring to the ῀ (as in "niño") however, like you said, that is a "tilde". I did a little research and it turns out that the tilde was first used in polytonic orthography of ancient Greek. It was a variant of the circumflex. So, your suggestion was pretty close.


Unfortunately, I cannot use a tilde to replace a circumflex for my class. It's a close second, but I can't use it. My professor requires the official circumflex: ˆ

Jun 8, 2012 4:17 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

Tom,

Thanks for the tip! I've realized it is not a keyboard problem, but a font problem. To summarize, mostly all serif fonts use the Tilde instead of the circumflex. San-serif fonts use the circumflex.


Once I started scrolling through fonts, it all made since. I originally was using Times New Roman (because it portrayed the greek letters very similar to my textbook). However, once I highlighted the tilde and changed to a san-serif font, it changed to a circumflex. This would also explain why my tilde turned into a circumflex one I posted it to the apple discussion board (Apple uses a san-serif font for their discussion board posts).


While I was researching the problem, I came across this article about unicode fonts and their usage of the tilde, circumflex, and the perispomeni. Pretty interesting if anyone wants to read it:


Read section 1.2

http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/unicode/gkdiacritics.html


Thanks again for your help!

Nov 21, 2012 1:17 AM in response to NickErtel

I have a cludge of a workaround. It's not the most elegant solution.. And the real answer is probably "request that apple add polytonic greek support"



But if your trying to type on your ipad when your Bluetooth keyboard is not around..


I have shortcuts for every option:



Settings -> General -> Keyboard -> add new shortcut


Paste a combo and use what you think it should be as you "shortcut" (more like a long-cut)


So for ῶ or any vowel with a circumflex, I have a shortcut that is vowel immediately followed by ΅


You can make the, whatever you want.


For aspirant mark, I follow whatever it is with a comma like so.. ἤ


Easy at the beginning of a word, but painful in the middle at the beginning of a word press space and then delete a space and keep going, in the middle of a word you need a spacembeforemthe vowel, then move the cursor to delete that space.


Maybe I should repeat that we should all request Apple Support Feedback should just add polytonic support?

Mar 25, 2013 11:48 AM in response to NickErtel

If you're interested in a software solution for typing greek polytonic using iPad, there's an application on the AppStore, named "Greek Polytonic" (I found it typing "πολυτονικό" in Greek in the search area), that costs about 4-5 euros, and gives you the opportunity to type using the greek software keyboard, adding on top of it all the necessary symbols (´,`,῀,᾽,῾,ι,¨) for polytonic typing. It's perfect for me, (I'm an Ancient Greek Highschool teacher in Greece), and I find myself using it more often than the polytonic keyboard on my MacBook, since it's much faster.

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