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Q: Connect my 21.5" Late 2009 iMac to HDTV?

Up until now I've used my iMac for all my media needs, watching movies, listening to music, basically everything.

 

Moving into a larger apartment and am considering a 47" TV to use as an external monitor now

solely for watching my videos. No interest in Netflix or any other streaming services. I just want to

watch my media collection on the larger screen. I'd prefer to avoid a dedicated device like

the Apple TV / Roku / WD Live as I have no interest in all the other features. Just want what

is on my iMac to play on a bigger screen and don't mind a wired connection.

 

Being that my computer desk is going to be positioned close to the TV I was wondering if

I can just use the mini displayport to connect the two?

 

My main questions are:

 

1) Which cable(s) do I need exactly. I see the Kanex 10 ft cable in the Apple Store but

it says it only supports HD video and 5.1 audio passthrough starting with 2010 imac models.

I don't care about 5.1 as I only have 2 speakers and a sub, but I definitely want full 1080 HD.

 

2) Will I be able to turn off or black out my imac display while watching the videos in the

TV while still using my Apple Remote to adjust volume and scan? (not sure if it matters

but VLC is my video player of choice)

 

I'm entirely new to all this so please forgive me if any of my questions are already based

on misunderstandings of how this works. Thanks for any help you can provide. We're

moving in a week and I need to pull the trigger now if I'm going to have the TV delivered

in time. Thanks!

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.3), 21.5" 3.06 Core 2 Duo 8GB

Posted on Jun 9, 2012 12:27 AM

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  • by NuMystic,

    NuMystic NuMystic Jun 9, 2012 12:34 AM in response to NuMystic
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    Jun 9, 2012 12:34 AM in response to NuMystic

    If it matters, the TV I'm looking at is the Panasonic TCL47E50 47" 120hz 1080p LED HDTV

     

    For inputs it has Coaxial / HDMI / PC Input / Ethernet / Optical Digital Output / USB / Component Video Input

  • by X423424X,

    X423424X X423424X Jun 9, 2012 12:58 AM in response to NuMystic
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    Jun 9, 2012 12:58 AM in response to NuMystic

    Use a mini-displayport to hdmi adapter adapter and a hdmi cable or a mini-diplayport to hdmi cable to connect the imac to the TV.

     

    Set the TV to the input you connected the HDMI cable to.

     

    On your computer, if you open the Displays preferences and do not see an Arrangement tab (or there is an Arrangement tab that shows only a single monitor) then there is something physically wrong with your connection.  Try clicking Detect Displays just to see if the computer can now sense the presence of the connection. Check your cables and make sure the mini-displayport plug is pushed firmly in so that essentially all the metal part disappears inside the socket.  Mini-displayport plugs can be a little tricky in that you need to make sure the plug is fully seated in their socket.

     

    If you do have an Arrangement tab, and it shows two screens, then click Gather Windows to bring the TV's Displays preferences on to your main screen if the TV is not yet showing an image.  Set the proper resolution (probably 720p, 1080i, or 1080p).  Set the refresh rate (probably 60Hz) if that preference is shown.  You should see a picture at this point.  I  recommend turning off mirrored displays if it is enabled (more about this below).

     

    You may have to play with the underscan/overscan settings on your TV and the displays prefs for the TV if the picture is too small or larger for the TV screen.

     

    Also, you need to set your Sound preferences to output to the HDMI connection.

     

    And if running Lion, do not run in Lion full screen mode.

     

     

    Arrangements, Menu Bar, Extended Displays, and Mirrored Displays

     

    When you have multiple monitors (and the TV is considered just a monitor) only one monitor is designated as the "main" monitor.  That's the one with the menu bar.

     

    If you look at the Arrangement tab in your Displays preferences you will see both monitors.  One will have a little white "menu bar" on it.  That's your main monitor.  You can drag the little menu bar to the other monitor if you wish to make it the main monitor.

     

    You cannot make both monitors main monitors.  However there is a third party app called MenuEverywhere that allows you to do that (it has mixed reviews).

     

    Your two monitors can be spatially arranged with the Arrangement in Displays as well.  Drag the monitors around each other to define their relationship.  Then you can drag the mouse or windows across with in that "space".  This is extended desktop mode and I recommend that to be able to use all the available screen real estate.  However there is a checkbox in the Arrangement to run in mirrored mode.  Now the two images are identical on both screens albeit the max screen size is determined by the smallest screen in the mirrored set.  You would of course have the menu bar on both screens since they are mirrors of each other.  But I think it's a waste of good screen real estate.

     

     

    Playing videos in Extended Display Mode

     

    Flash videos are normally played in your browser using the adobe flash plug-in.  If you click the video to display full screen the video will expand on the monitor containing your browser window.  Therefore you need to move your browser window on to the desired  monitor to view it full screen.

     

    Many stand-alone video players, for example, QuickTime, operate the same way.  You need to move the video window on to the desired monitor.  There are exceptions however.  The more powerful vlc player has a a preference to allow you to specify which monitor is to be used for full screen display.

  • by NuMystic,

    NuMystic NuMystic Jun 9, 2012 1:05 AM in response to X423424X
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    Jun 9, 2012 1:05 AM in response to X423424X

    Lots of great info but you didn't address my two key questions at all? The ones bullet pointed as 1) and 2)

  • by X423424X,

    X423424X X423424X Jun 9, 2012 1:25 AM in response to NuMystic
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    Jun 9, 2012 1:25 AM in response to NuMystic

    I think I did, 1 at least.

     

    1) Any current hdmi cable will do like the ones at monorprice or what you could pick up at your local drugstore.

     

    2) You use vlc, so do I.  I play the videos on my TV but I keep the vlc controller on my main monitor.  So I don't sht off the main monitor.  I do usually dim my main monitor with isolator (a menu item I that I click to toggle the screen dimming).

     

    I have no idea about the apple remote to adjust volume.  I just use my TV control.  I also don't know what you mean about using the remote to "scan".

     

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    I guess for full disclosure my setup is a mac pro, not an imac, but that should not make any difference for this kind of an application.

  • by NuMystic,

    NuMystic NuMystic Jun 9, 2012 3:22 AM in response to X423424X
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    Jun 9, 2012 3:22 AM in response to X423424X

    Okay, let me clarify the pieces that are of importance to me in each question that I'm still without an answer on...

     

    1) I need to know if the mini displayport on my late 2009 21.5" iMac will pass both video AND audio through to the TV, as the Kanex cable description makes it clear that at least some functionality has changed in more recent models. (for example their cable will only provide what they describe with 2010 models onwards) I'm unsure what is unsupported though... all audio, only 5.1, etc.

     

    2) I specifically need to know if there is a way to completely black out (not merely dim) the iMac display altogether while watching video full screen on the TV. If that's not possible then this is not a viable solution for our specific home theater needs.

  • by X423424X,

    X423424X X423424X Jun 9, 2012 3:34 AM in response to NuMystic
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    Jun 9, 2012 3:34 AM in response to NuMystic

    1). See the following:

     

    About Mini DisplayPort to HDMI adapters

     

    So yes, it passes audio to the mini-displayport.  The adapter I linked to explicitly says it passes audio.  Don't get any cable that doesn't explicitly say it doesn't have audio pass through.  They all pass the proper video.

     

    2). Why this obsession of blacking out the imac monitor?  No, you cannot do it.  The imac has to stay on obviously to feed the TV.  The best you can do is dim it as far as you can dim it.  I don't understand why this is not a "viable solution".

  • by X423424X,Solvedanswer

    X423424X X423424X Jun 9, 2012 4:13 AM in response to NuMystic
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    Jun 9, 2012 4:13 AM in response to NuMystic

    After a little more thought there may be one way to black out the imac screen.  That is to disable it and make the TV the main (and only) monitor.  I think you can do this with SwitchResX.  I know it can enable/disable monitors and change which monitor is the main monitor (the one with the menu bar) so I assume you could also do it to the imac monitor as well.  So that would effectively remove the imac as a monitor and it would go dark.  Later you use SwitchResX to re-enable it when you want to use it again.  These configurations can be defined as a menu (menu bar and/or contextual) and/or a hot key.  So once configured in SwitchResX, switching monitors is a simple as pushing a hot key or selecting a menu item.

  • by NuMystic,

    NuMystic NuMystic Jun 9, 2012 10:00 PM in response to X423424X
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    Jun 9, 2012 10:00 PM in response to X423424X

    Thanks, this is what I was needing! Apple Care Support just confirmed that once the TV is hooked up I'll see options to select and deselect monitors with a few clicks in the display options within OS X itself. I'll also check out SwitchResX as it sounds like it may streamline that switching even further.

  • by X423424X,

    X423424X X423424X Jun 9, 2012 10:08 PM in response to NuMystic
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    Jun 9, 2012 10:08 PM in response to NuMystic

    Sorry, apple is wrong.  There are no Displays system preferences to fully disable a monitor.  That's one of the reasons SwitchResX was created.

     

    You could set a monitor to an invalid resolution and it will go black but not as far as the system is concerned.  So based on the Displays Arrangement you can move your mouse off the screen you can see to the one you can't and that gets confusing with you wondering where the mouse curser want.

     

    SwitchResX can truly disable a monitor just as if you pulled its plug.  The mouse cannot get "lost" on the disabled monitor.

  • by NuMystic,

    NuMystic NuMystic Jun 9, 2012 10:55 PM in response to X423424X
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    Jun 9, 2012 10:55 PM in response to X423424X

    The rep implied that once the TV was connected there would be checkboxes, one to select the TV as the main display and that unchecking a box for the iMac would set the screen to black. If you're right and this isn't the case, thank you once again for the SwitchResX recommendation as it sounds like this will do exactly what I need it to.

  • by X423424X,

    X423424X X423424X Jun 9, 2012 11:09 PM in response to NuMystic
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    Jun 9, 2012 11:09 PM in response to NuMystic

    This is why we reference the so called apple store "geniuses" in quotes in these forums!

     

    See my initial (long) post on what defines the "main monitor", i.e., it's the one with the menu bar.  And you can drag that little white menu bar from one monitor image to another in the Displays Arrangement window to define what is the main monitor. 

     

    No checkboxes except to specify mirrored mode and one to put a displays menu  in the menu bar to do some of the same things the Displays preferences does (and also to launch the Displays preferences from that menu too).