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  • jws1982 Level 2 (175 points)

    I think many people are under the impression that the new retina-screen will make everything super-small.  On the contrary, it'll be treated just like the screens on the iPhone/iPad.  Everything on the screen will still be the same size as before.  The extra pixels will just be used overall to clarify text, and for apps that specifically support it.  If an app hasn't been coded to support the retina screen, it won't effectively utilize it, just like old iOS apps don't use the retina screen on new iOS devices.


    So in effect, it's still has the same real estate as a 1440x900 screen.  ...That might actually make you guys dislike it more though.   Having the real estate of a 1920x1200 screen is just fantastic, and that's no longer available.  The closest you can get is the non-retina 15" with the upgraded 1680x1050 screen.

  • Macindigo Level 1 (0 points)

    I agree, the scaling works effectively to make everything normal-sized, for razor-sharp text. The simple problem is the screen real estate. The 15" is simply too small. I seek a true desktop replacement. And the 17" size is perfect.

  • jCurve Level 1 (0 points)

    Agreed, regardless of the retina display the real estate just won't cut it


    This puppy is a monster



    I'll have to give Apple the benefit of the doubt and wait a couple of months to see if they come to their senses but if not. it looks like i'll be lugging around 3kgs of portable workstation and using a different Pro App set-up for my production/Post Production needs into the future.

  • jamesmwlv Level 1 (0 points)

    I too am very dissapointed in Apple's move to discontinue the 17". That is all we use for shows, 15" are a joke. I waited on the purchase of a new 17" for today announcement so I could the newest model and Now I'm sure I will be forced to buy a use ebay model. I also guess Im no longer and apple customer.


  • random47 Level 1 (5 points)

    You could go To one of the online stores like MacMall, CDW, BestBuy and see what they have.

  • iriekid Level 1 (0 points)

    apple rather iphone and ipad users now than mac users. litte by litte they are taking away the mac.  xserves gone , macbook gone , macbook pro 17 gone, soon imacs , mac pro and macbook pros

  • random47 Level 1 (5 points)

    If that is how it is going, than give me a 17" iPad Pro. How's that?

  • random47 Level 1 (5 points)

    Good for you.   If I could afford to, I'd get another one too.

  • random47 Level 1 (5 points)

    Who wants a 17" desktop? Not me. Desktops should be at least 21".

    Right now I have my MBP17 hoked to my 65" HDTV.

    Lean back in the recliner and surf.

  • PeterVandewalle Level 1 (0 points)

    I use a MacBook Pro professionaly to demo CAD software. I NEED a 17". I also need Ethernet, FireWire and display ports on the road. The DVD-drive is the least of my worries. If a lot of users think a 15" will do, that's OK for them. But why don't we have the right to choose for the 17"?


    No Ethernet, no 17", no FireWire, no SuperDrive, ...

    This shouldn't be called the "MacBook Pro" but the "MacBook Air Max".


    I'm not sure if Apple doesn't create a 17" within 2 years, I will still be working on Mac by then...


    I'm a very disapointed, previously very convinced Mac-user.

  • Ignited Level 1 (0 points)

    Lets not get too excited yet though they didn't release a 13 inch retina either but then again our 17 inches have completely vanished. Does anyone have an official source of the death of the 17 inch line? Apple needs to make a statement and it needs to be quick.


    Mr. Cook, or any Apple moderator, this small market of the 17 inch mbp followers are the most loyal. Personally, I have bought two of every apple product that has came out since 2009. Please don't let us down, I cant go back to the dark side.

  • pepmachine Level 1 (5 points)

    I agree totally!


    It's the worsed thing they ever did to estrange their loyal pro users. These are the people that are responsible for the image and brandvalue of the company.

    It seems to be set aside for mass profits.

    This decision will move me away from Apple and I am pretty sure I won't be the only one.

    I am not purchasing a consumer machine for too much money.

    Windows 8 looks pretty nice.

    Feeling really sad!

  • Ignited Level 1 (0 points)

    Mr. Steve Jobs loved the products for what they were, not for the numbers they produced.


    This shortsighted vision is what Steve recognized and ignored by purely focusing on the end user and making customers happy not investors not anyone else. There's a difference.

  • PeterVandewalle Level 1 (0 points)

    I don't believe Apple plans to add a 17" later. Years ago they updated the titanium MacBooks to Alu MacBooks and they kept the 15" titanium for a while. They added the alu version later but they kept the old version in sale.

    Now they do no longer have any 17" machine. I'm really wondering what to do in 2 years. I need a 17" but I really don't like Windows at all.

    I might change jobs. Become a farmer or a lumberjack...

  • freevito Level 2 (290 points)

    I'll have to give Apple the benefit of the doubt and wait a couple of months to see if they come to their senses but if not. it looks like i'll be lugging around 3kgs of portable workstation and using a different Pro App set-up for my production/Post Production needs into the future.

    My advice would be, "Don't hold your breath." I suspect that Apple knows full well that they've alienated pro users by killing the 17" form factor.


    Apparently, there are problems producing the Retina display in the 17" form factor, but if Apple intends to address that issue and revive the 17" MBPro in the future, they're being characteristically silent about it. I wouldn't care to speculate one way or the other.


    Although the numbers aren't "official" in any sense (Apple doesn't release such information), it seems to be a generally accepted estimate that the 17" MBPro accounted for only 2% of Mac laptop sales. It doesn't surprise me that they'd kill the 17" on that basis. I just wish they hadn't killed it before I'm ready to replace my existing 17" MBP.


    I appreciate the argument that, although pro users represent a minor market segment in terms of sales, they drive other sales via their influence on non-pro users. I have no knowledge of whether that's true, but if Apple considered it, they obviously dismissed it as a factor in their decision.


    It can only mean one thing: They consider pro users expendable. Not exactly an encouraging realization. For the first time in nearly 32 years as a Mac user, I'm actually considering a non-Apple computer.

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