1st gen iPad and iOS 6

jonathan1412 wrote:

Does anyone know what happened after the iPhone 3G was capped at iOS 4.2.1? Did security updates continue for that phone? Or has it been left unpatched? If left unpatched, are there security holes that have been exploited?

There have been no future updates for previous versions of iOS once a new one was released. If they do it this time, it will be the first time.

Correct, but Apple took big strides to get the 3G back to a usable capacity after 4.0 crippled it so badly. I'm not saying that Apple to date has ever released an update to an older version of iOS alongside the new version, but rather that it's not impossible. If an exploit came up, Apple would patch it. I do find it interesting that Apple could be leaving iOS 5 on 5.1.1, which is incredibly easy to jailbreak (one-click untethered).

For all those so worried about security and patches, it would be incredibly foolish to jailbreak. Like others have said, after the release of iOS 6, original iPads will continue functioning on iOS 5. Continue to function, unless, of course, you jailbreak 😝

Agreed. To all who read this thread, please do not interpret my position as that of one recommending causing your iOS device to run unsigned code!

Right, I didn't interpret you as promoting it, just a caution to the readers here.

shdwghst457 wrote:

If an exploit came up, Apple would patch it.

There are vulnerabilities in iOS3 and iOS4 that can only be patched by moving to iOS5. If your device can't run iOS5, then it will stay vulnerable. You can find information about these issues at places like Secunia's website, for instance. There are some they classify as "Highly critical", but there is no fix for non-iOS5 devices.

And how many actual exploits are known to have occurred on these devices?

This forum topic seems less about helping apple customers than satisfying the egos of a few posters. User of various apple products myself and I thought I would try to get some reasonable options about my ipad 1 as to relevant fixes. If the only suggestion one would have is to buy another product, which I think is one way to remedy the problem, once offered then back off so that others can try to find resolution for the poster and those with similar issues. I dont see how badgering is conducive to a civil discourse to others with needs. Replacing a product is a superior, if one has bank like that, but many of us are with apple because we are willing to budget to get a great product.

Insisting that those of us who would like our expensive equipment to be upgradable in the long run (5 years is NOT an outlandish desire) are whiners is mean spirited and does not peak to the posters initial concerns. Getting longevity of use is not new, what is new is the idea of disposabilitty of cherished appliances to meet the profit motives of business and a vain culture whose esteem seems based on the acquisition of newer and and newer THINGS.

Have disdain for people less financial able if we wish but our comments say more about us and intolerance for those who admit to being human than it does about seekers of assistance. I think it is far to ask those of us who are unable to see beyond our own values tho allow others with ideas to express them without derirision.

Freedom of speech asside, how exactly does bullying people to go to competitors of apple help Apple the business? Are we here to help or simply make ourselves feel better by knocking those looking for other answers.

Not sure I will be seeking answers here again,

Uncle Darnell

I too am disappointed that the iPad 1 is no longer upgradeable, but it is still a valuable, and cool, device and will continue to be so for some time to come. I use it for reading, mapping, listening to radio, helping in learning a language, and many other purposes. If I get rich, or lucky, I might upgrade to a new model, perhaps version 4 or 5 if they come into being. Meanwhile, enjoy the miraculous technology as it is. Remember, a rich man is he who is satisfied with his lot!

Johnil,

I agree one hundred percent. I looove my iPad and will continue to use it until I can afford which ever version is available in 2 & 1/2 years from now. Because I always buy top of the line products, if what i buy doesn't last 5 years i move over to another manufacturer. So far, GOD willing, Apple has not failed me in the reliability dept. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way my gen1 iPad works I just wish I could get features like FaceTime and upgrade my operating system to something state of the art. I am committed to apple since I first tried it. I have been saving up for the Mac Air hopefully for next year. It is unlikely I will get another iPhone because I really don't need the features of any smart phone. I guess my point is I would purchase software and upgrading hardware to improve the functions of my devices if I could but I can make myself happy with what I have because I was born before color tv, man walked the moon and only Spock and the crew we're the ones who had wireless communications devices. I know I will survive.

Yours in product loyalty

Uncle Darnell

Also nobody beats apple store employees in the customer service department.

I think some are wrongly conflating a product not lasting with a product not morphing for free into the newer version. It's the same product it was before, in fact it likely has received upgrades, for free, since purchase. Lexus won't be giving me 2013 parts for my 2008 model, and I wouldn't expect them to.

With the car anaolgy, you are confusing hardware with software. It would be very unreasonable to assume Apple would upgrade your hardware, but your software? Its what regulates the hardware, and updates are what keep people intersted in the current and even future product(s). You stop updating and people get angry, which is bad for business. Windows gets updated daily, Android gets updates differently but new software is pushed out anually, and even Linux/Ubuntu/ect gets a major update once or twice a year. Updates fix problems with the device you paid for. Good attempt at the analogy though 🙂.

I am a college student looking to buy a refurb 1st gen because I want to get textbooks from Inkling, but cannot do that from my Android tablet (whole other frustration). I don't even really care about the new features, all I care about is being able to continue to update and download new applications. My old iPhone 3G when running iOS 3.whatever couldn't download most of the applications I used because the software was too old. When I upgraded my phone became a paper weight (another whole different frustration), and after iOS 5 was released I found myself unable to download applications again. From what I have read there are no hardware limitations as it's just as powerful as the iPhone 4, which is getting iOS6. I am worried if I drop 300$ on a 64GB refurb (on Newegg) that it will stop being able to download applications, which makes me doubt putting that much money down for a tablet.

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deggie wrote:

"...buy an Android, they care about you ..."

Especially in relation to upgrades that is the funniest thing I have read all day.

I think Android leaves more in the dust than Apple does. In ways I can understand the 1st Gen. iPad not qualifying for iOS 6, much like my Mac Pro 1,1 not able to run Mountain Lion. But I also believe that if Apple wanted to it could make at least my Mac Pro run ML since the Xeon processors are 64 bit. I read one post about iOS 6 and how it would bog down and/or make the 1st Gen iPad very unstable. Same with my Mac Pro 1,1 - I can "hack" ML onto it but would it be stable and dependable. And do I still enjoy my old iPad and Mac Pro - yes. Do I want an unstable device - no.

Tom

Buying a newer IPAD just contributes to the planned obselence business model. That is not a solution to get Apple to support older devices.