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  • Jerome Olivier Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    To All,

     

    Let's stay on topic please.  Many thanks.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,790 points)

    Jerome Olivier wrote:

     

    To All,

     

    Let's stay on topic please.  Many thanks.

    Open your own forum, then you can be in charge.

  • parmy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm with you Jerome, and second staying on topic "please".

     

    "Many Thanks"

  • PuNiTTT Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm pretty sure they will announce a new 17' MBP at the WWDC in June.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,790 points)

    PuNiTTT wrote:

     

    I'm pretty sure they will announce a new 17' MBP at the WWDC in June.

    Shall we bet on it?

  • sers Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    On my own principles I couldn't before the fact absolutely prove you wrong about this.  I think Apple could help a lot of people who would benefit from the 17" MBP and also help itself:  but all these things are always shrouded before the fact. My every instinct points in that direction, though, were the marketing to be right.  I could do the ad campaign myself.  I think great ads--along the lines of the ones Apple did originally contrasting itself with DOS--could be done, contrasting somebody needing constantly to have a little laptop plugged into a workstation to do anything, with somebody working in more spontaneous ways and more comfortable and casual situations the day before a trip, and then working on the way to travel, and a bit more during travel. The end of the commercial could contrast one person fidgeting with a little laptop and trying to hook it up to a hotel TV to start work; while another person with a 17" is putting the finishing touches on a work project & iChatting/skyping a friend while having dinner on the hotel balcony.  Of course, I love the MBP 17" more than any other computer I've ever used.  So that can be interpreted either as blinding me or as giving me insight. 

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,790 points)

    sers wrote:

     

    On my own principles I couldn't before the fact absolutely prove you wrong about this.

    About what?

  • sers Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You commented earlier, "I don't agree with any of your conclusions."

     

    I can't, on my own principles, at this time prove you are wrong to disagree.  All one can do is have a look at the aspects of the thing that seem to have potential.  It sings to me, but there are a lot of ways of looking at these things.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,790 points)

    Maybe the singing you hear is the Fat Lady?

     

    We'll just disagree, seems the reasonable option.

     

    How about we do this with shoes?  You don't need them with you:  just have a pair wherever you plan to go.  Of course, you can't take them with you.

    Is it your way to walk around barefoot?

     

    Bad analogy.

  • sers Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I thought it was a good analogy:  just as we want the shoes to go with us wherever we travel, we might want our capacity to do our work to do the same, and not to be anchored to a workstation.  I do hope I'm not hearing the Fat Lady.  I hate to see a product that meets certain needs nearly perfectly fade out in this way.  But I'll be using mine awhile more, quite happily, as long as feasible!  It makes my editing/publishing/scholarly work infinitely easier & more comfortable & colorful (because I can do the full monty in places far from a workstation:  e.g., in a shady place in a park near the Everglades, as well as relaxed on the couch, or sitting in front of my home, etc.).   ;-)

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,790 points)

    sers wrote:

     

    I thought it was a good analogy:  just as we want the shoes to go with us wherever we travel,

    I just wear them, your method requires considerable advance effort and leaves one barefoot while actually travelling.

     

    As I said, I disagree entirely with your conclusions.

     

    Watch out for sharp objects underfoot.

  • sers Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just take the MBP with me when I travel.  No problem.  Like wearing shoes.  No need to hunt up a big monitor to which to hook up a small computer.  So, no sharp objects underfoot.  Shoes are with me.  ;-)

     

    But as you say:  the reasonable option is that we just disagree. And of course, if you don't like the MBP 17" I wouldn't want you to need to use it. That leaves more for me, anyhow.  ;-)

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,790 points)

    That's fine with me.

  • carl wolf Level 6 Level 6 (14,395 points)

    "I can't, on my own principles, at this time prove you are wrong to disagree."

    Can you prove him wrong using anyone's principles?  Regardless, the 17" MBP is gone, and it's not returning.  At least one speculated product has been scratched from Apple's linup, and its large size was the issue.  Whether that sings to you or not.

  • djacoumalegrand Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Going to be really annoyed if they do put one out in June, since my 17" is on last legs and I just put down the dough for a maxed out 15".  After several rounds of talks with Apple, I called applecare instead of sales/customer service an the guy told me that if I got the laptop and took it to a store, I would be able to find a 1080p HD TV with high enough performance to give me the equivalent pixel per inch experience that I'm accustomed to on the 17", without the limitation of 30Hz on a 4k external monitor.  If so, will sell that 15" in a heartbeat so matter what the cost of the new 17" will be.  However, like Csound1, not at all optimistic -- am pretty sure that they've ditched this high end product for good in favor of what the masses a buying.

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