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Q: Few Questions about iPhoto to Aperture Switch

I have been using iPhoto every since I got a mac.  I store all my photos (I am an amateur photographer so I have a lot) in iPhoto and I have iPhoto synced with my iPhone over iCloud.

 

iPhoto is great, but I have been dying to get to Aperture cause of its vastly greater capabilites.

 

Here is my dilemna.  I want to use Aperture, but not if when I move my iPhoto library over to Aperture any changes I make to the photos in Aperture won't be automatically seen in those photos in iPhoto.

 

And here is the bigger issue.  If I do switch over, that will take up so much MORE space on my harddrive.  Is it possible to work out of Aperture and have the files be saved automatically in iPhoto so I don't have all these duplicate files taking up twice the ammount of space that is necessary. 

 

Lastly, and this is more of a iPhoto question, but if I have a Macbook Pro and an iMac, how do I get the two libraries to be identical.  Right now I have to manually upload the same photos or do it over the Airdrop because they are right next to each other.  They are both on the iCloud together, but if I were to make a change to a photo on the laptop, how do I get it to be already there on the iMac. 

 

I appreciate any help in these matters, and I thank you ahead of time.

 

Yours truly,

Brendan

Aperture 3, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jun 12, 2012 11:51 AM

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  • by da1bearsfan,

    da1bearsfan da1bearsfan Jun 12, 2012 1:58 PM in response to William Lloyd
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    Jun 12, 2012 1:58 PM in response to William Lloyd

    Im looking at the App Store ready to but it, and every review i See is 1 Star, why is everyone reviewing this update/version terribly?

  • by SierraDragon,

    SierraDragon SierraDragon Jun 12, 2012 2:17 PM in response to William Lloyd
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    Jun 12, 2012 2:17 PM in response to William Lloyd

    William Lloyd wrote:

     

    Note that synching libraries between your two machines is a different issue.  You can do that from Aperture via exporting and importing libraries.

     

    William-

     

    No disrespect, but IMO synch is what music on an iPhone does when you attach it to its parent Mac. Or what Filemaker databases have done since the 1980s. And no, you cannot do that from Aperture.

     

    Manually exporting/importing Projects/Libraries among computers and merging them does not IMO even remotely qualify as synching.

     

    Yes with care one can make two Libraries functionally identical, but shoot one card and the entire slow, risky multi-step manual process must be repeated on 100,000-image sized Libraries.

     

    -Allen

  • by William Lloyd,

    William Lloyd William Lloyd Jun 12, 2012 2:17 PM in response to da1bearsfan
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    Jun 12, 2012 2:17 PM in response to da1bearsfan

    It looks like a variety of reasons; not all of them are actually issues with the quality of the 3.3 product.  Most are based on expectations for what they want out of "Aperture 4."

     

    I've used Aperture 3.3 for about 6 hours now in the last 2 days since it was released.  I've found it to be as stable as 3.2.4 was for me, which was perfectly stable.

  • by SierraDragon,

    SierraDragon SierraDragon Jun 12, 2012 2:27 PM in response to da1bearsfan
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    Jun 12, 2012 2:27 PM in response to da1bearsfan

    da1bearsfan wrote:

     

    Im looking at the App Store ready to but it, and every review i See is 1 Star, why is everyone reviewing this update/version terribly?

     

    Small sample size; there are just 6 one-star rankings.

     

    Also note that Aperture is a pro graphics app and hardware hog that can lead to serious frustration if one either lacks adequate strong hardware and/or has a poor setup. So if someone trys Aperture on a poor setup they rank the app poorly.

     

    -Allen

  • by da1bearsfan,

    da1bearsfan da1bearsfan Jun 12, 2012 2:24 PM in response to SierraDragon
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    Jun 12, 2012 2:24 PM in response to SierraDragon

    Don't worry I got the thunder to support the lightning.  My Macbook Pro is a ball buster

  • by Kirby Krieger,

    Kirby Krieger Kirby Krieger Jun 12, 2012 2:35 PM in response to William Lloyd
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    Jun 12, 2012 2:35 PM in response to William Lloyd

    William Lloyd wrote:

     

    I've used Aperture 3.3 for about 6 hours now in the last 2 days since it was released.  I've found it to be as stable as 3.2.4 was for me, which was perfectly stable.

    Ditto.  Afaict, loads and closes faster, as well.

  • by SierraDragon,

    SierraDragon SierraDragon Jun 12, 2012 5:32 PM in response to Kirby Krieger
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    Jun 12, 2012 5:32 PM in response to Kirby Krieger

    William-

     

    Have you had the opportunity to merge/add Libraries with the latest version update? If it functions as easily as it sounds and turns out to be bombproof perhaps we finally do have a viable two-computer almost-synch methodology.

     

    I am out of town so I cannot risk experimenting with new software at the moment.

     

    -Allen

  • by Brian Tesoro,

    Brian Tesoro Brian Tesoro Jun 12, 2012 9:15 PM in response to William Lloyd
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    Jun 12, 2012 9:15 PM in response to William Lloyd

    Hi William,

     

    I've upgraded both my Aperture and iPhoto apps to the latest version and I'm not getting a unified library. The Aperture and iPhoto libaries are still separate. I guess my question is, both libraries remain distinct unless you decide to merge one with the other, correct? Or Aperture and iPhoto knows to make a unified libary from the getgo?

     

    Brian

  • by da1bearsfan,

    da1bearsfan da1bearsfan Jun 12, 2012 10:17 PM in response to Brian Tesoro
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    Jun 12, 2012 10:17 PM in response to Brian Tesoro

    ^ That is a good question, and if thats the case, does someone know the answer?

  • by da1bearsfan,

    da1bearsfan da1bearsfan Jun 12, 2012 10:20 PM in response to Brian Tesoro
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    Jun 12, 2012 10:20 PM in response to Brian Tesoro

    I also found this link for anyone looking into the details of it all

     

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5260

  • by Kirby Krieger,

    Kirby Krieger Kirby Krieger Jun 13, 2012 5:23 AM in response to Brian Tesoro
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    Jun 13, 2012 5:23 AM in response to Brian Tesoro

    Brian Tesoro wrote:

     

    Hi William,

     

    I've upgraded both my Aperture and iPhoto apps to the latest version and I'm not getting a unified library. The Aperture and iPhoto libraries are still separate. I guess my question is, both libraries remain distinct unless you decide to merge one with the other, correct? Or Aperture and iPhoto knows to make a unified library from the get-go?

     

    Brian

    Brian -- you have to merge Libraries if you want to have merged Libraries.  After the upgrades, the Library file format (the database as the computer sees it) is identical for iPhoto and for Aperture.  Your Libraries -- each shows as a file in Finder; you can have as many Libraries as you want -- remain distinct until you merge them.

     

    If you start with one iPhoto Library and one Aperture Library, after the upgrades, you will still have two Libraries -- but now each of them can be opened and used by either iPhoto or Aperture.

     

    Is that clearer now?

     

    --Kirby.

     

    Message was edited by: Kirby Krieger -- the usual clumsy finger corrections.

  • by Brian Tesoro,

    Brian Tesoro Brian Tesoro Jun 13, 2012 5:42 AM in response to Kirby Krieger
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    Jun 13, 2012 5:42 AM in response to Kirby Krieger

    Hi Kirby & da1bearsfan,

     

    Yes now it makes sense. I think the word "unified" was throwing me off. From the description of the changes from Apple's website, they make it seem that once you upgrade both programs, it automatically creates a merged library between the Aperture and iPhoto libraries from the start. "Readable" is more appropriate.

     

    Thanks for the clarification and the link to the article.

  • by da1bearsfan,

    da1bearsfan da1bearsfan Jun 13, 2012 7:37 AM in response to Brian Tesoro
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    Jun 13, 2012 7:37 AM in response to Brian Tesoro

    When I updated Aperture it asked me if I either wanted to open the Aperture library or the iPhoto library, so thats why I choose the iPhoto, hence 'unified' .  Problem is you can not have both programs running at the same time.

  • by Kirby Krieger,

    Kirby Krieger Kirby Krieger Jun 13, 2012 7:48 AM in response to da1bearsfan
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    Jun 13, 2012 7:48 AM in response to da1bearsfan

    Of course you can have both iPhoto and Aperture running concurrently.  What you cannot do is load a Library into one of them that is currently loaded into the other.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jun 13, 2012 8:24 AM in response to Brian Tesoro
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    Jun 13, 2012 8:24 AM in response to Brian Tesoro

    "Readable" is more appropriate.

    I prefer the term "compatible", if two programs can share the same database without special adaption.  iPhoto and Aperture are now (supposed to be) fully compatible - they can read and write each others data.

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